Groupwise patching

I have a small one server system on 2012sp2 and want to patch to sp4 (will be upgrading late this year). Domain, PO, gwia and webacc. Having not patched GW in a long time (back when it was on netware), I'm wondering how you all do your patching on the oes/linux side. I know it's probably real easy to do via the install. Is it as simple as choosing to install products then install agents (do you have to config then)? Or do you go the Create/update route in the install gui?

Any advice would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance
  • Am 06.10.2015 um 21:46 schrieb shesser:
    > it's probably real easy to do via the install. Is it as simple as
    > choosing to install products then install agents


    Exactly.

    > (do you have to config
    > then)?


    Not when you stay within the same product (aka install a Service Pack or
    IR or something for the same version you already have (some exceptions
    apply, but they are rare and then stated in the readme).

    > Or do you go the Create/update route in the install gui?


    Nope. That's for full version updates.

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  • Thanks for the reply Massimo! Prior to updating the agents, they should be stopped, correct?

    Thanks again
  • Am 07.10.2015 um 04:26 schrieb shesser:
    >
    > Thanks for the reply Massimo! Prior to updating the agents, they should
    > be stopped, correct?


    It's best practice, but strictly spoken, they don't have to. The new
    code will load the next time they're started.


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  • One other novice question, I know webaccess is a separate install that will need to be run. Is gwia updated with the rest of the agents or do you run the gwia install after the domain and po installs?

    Thanks again
  • Am 07.10.2015 um 15:16 schrieb shesser:
    >
    > One other novice question, I know webaccess is a separate install that
    > will need to be run.


    Correct.

    > Is gwia updated with the rest of the agents or do
    > you run the gwia install after the domain and po installs?


    It gets updated with the rest. the install should actually tell you when
    you run it for the agents, that it will update all the other installed
    componentes (minus webaccess) too.

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  • A couple more questions concerning the C1 snap-ins on Linux and on Windows, software distribution directory and gwcheck.
    I ran the update on my test box as mentioned above. Which by the way took all of 3 minutes! I started the system and check the version via the http monitor and all was good. I started C1 on the server and checked the snap-ins and seen they were 2012 sp3 (which I believe is correct). On my production box the snap-ins show for 2012sp1. I did not run the install for administration but yet the snap-ins were updated. Just wondering how that happen?
    Obviously I will need to copy in the contents from the full windows gw12.0.4_full_win_multi\groupwise\admin\c1admin directory to my console one directory I run C1 from to get the latest span-ins for this patch, correct?
    Last but not least, copy in anything from the new patch to my software distribution directory because it was not copied during the install of the agents, correct?
    Oh yeah, stand alone gwcheck. I looked at the installed rpm's on my production box and compared them to my test machine. The test box lacked a entry for gwcheck which my production box lists. Is this not installed when you create a new system? I can't remember if I install the rpm separately on the production machine or not, which I probably did, for it was not installed when I created my test box system. I know gwcheck exists in usr/consoleone/bin. Is this the same gwcheck as the stand alone, which is in /opt/novell/groupwise/gwcheck/bin?

    Thanks and sorry so long......
  • Hi.

    Am 08.10.2015 um 22:16 schrieb shesser:
    > I ran the update on my test box as mentioned above. Which by the way
    > took all of 3 minutes! I started the system and check the version via
    > the http monitor and all was good.


    Perfect.

    > I started C1 on the server and
    > checked the snap-ins and seen they were 2012 sp3 (which I believe is
    > correct). On my production box the snap-ins show for 2012sp1. I did not
    > run the install for administration but yet the snap-ins were updated.
    > Just wondering how that happen?


    I frankly don't know. I would have expected that you have to run the
    update for the administration (or copythem manually).

    > Obviously I will need to copy in the contents from the full windows
    > gw12.0.4_full_win_multi\groupwise\admin\c1admin directory to my console
    > one directory I run C1 from to get the latest span-ins for this patch,
    > correct?


    That, or run the install for the admin stuff.

    > Last but not least, copy in anything from the new patch to my software
    > distribution directory because it was not copied during the install of
    > the agents, correct?


    If you use the SDD, yes. I never do.

    > Oh yeah, stand alone gwcheck. I looked at the installed rpm's on my
    > production box and compared them to my test machine. The test box
    > lacked a entry for gwcheck which my production box lists. Is this not
    > installed when you create a new system?


    Nope. It's a completely seperate, manual install.

    CU,
    --
    Massimo Rosen
    Novell Knowledge Partner
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    http://www.cfc-it.de

  • > I started C1 on the server and
    > checked the snap-ins and seen they were 2012 sp3 (which I believe is
    > correct). On my production box the snap-ins show for 2012sp1. I did not
    > run the install for administration but yet the snap-ins were updated.
    > Just wondering how that happen?


    I frankly don't know. I would have expected that you have to run the
    update for the administration (or copythem manually).

    That's what I thought also, of course I did not check that before I updated. I'm sure they were at the sp1 level. I believe the plugins can be updated via an rpm without running the admin install. Does the Administration install also install the agents again?

    > Last but not least, copy in anything from the new patch to my software
    > distribution directory because it was not copied during the install of
    > the agents, correct?


    If you use the SDD, yes. I never do.

    Only thing thats in mine is the client software with the admin stuff.

    > Oh yeah, stand alone gwcheck. I looked at the installed rpm's on my
    > production box and compared them to my test machine. The test box
    > lacked a entry for gwcheck which my production box lists. Is this not
    > installed when you create a new system?


    Nope. It's a completely seperate, manual install.

    Thats what I thought, will have to make sure I run that update also, another rpm.

    Do you know if any of the ofview files changed that are copied to the post office directory, or are they the same from sp2 to sp4?

    Thanks!
  • In article <6T4Rx.1702$Qq2.611@novprvlin0913.provo.novell.com>, Massimo
    Rosen wrote:
    > >
    > > Thanks for the reply Massimo! Prior to updating the agents, they should
    > > be stopped, correct?

    >
    > It's best practice, but strictly spoken, they don't have to. The new
    > code will load the next time they're started.


    My usual route is to run the update install while they are running, and
    then stop and start them when I can have a brief outage.
    To make sure I have updated all the agents I check with
    rpm -qa |grep group
    which catches those agents you forgot about ("oh ya, I forgot I put that
    internal only GWIA here")



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  • Got the update completed. Did have one issue with the installer under gui mode. Attached the errors to this post. Anyone else run into this issue? Followed these tids, 7012184 and 7012505, to work around the errors.