GroupWise upgrade, version 6.0 to 2012

I posted this topic about a year and a half ago, but am revisiting it again for a customer site. Info:

1 server (Windows 2000)
I primary domain, 1 post office (version 6.0)
edirectory on box, no other boxes in mix, version 8.7

Want to migrate to 2012, and then 2014.

My thoughts are this:

dbcopy data over to new server
install 2012 software, C1, snapins/administration, agent software
Login to C1, check schema, update if needed, which it probably will(want be able to attach to domain at this step since not upgraded)
Upgrade agents
Login to C1, check versions,etc

Novell docs states best practice to upgrade to 2014, is to be on GW8 or 2012. It might work to take GW6 directly to 2014, but I would rather follow their docs for it. One of my questions is can you move the data over to new box, and then upgrade it just to make sure it upgrades correctly, like if I moved the data to a test box that had the 2012 software on it, but not authenticate to edirectory. Also, do my steps look correct order for accomplishing this task? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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  • jlewter wrote:

    > Novell docs states best practice to upgrade to 2014, is to be on GW8
    > or 2012. It might work to take GW6 directly to 2014, but I would
    > rather follow their docs for it. One of my questions is can you move
    > the data over to new box, and then upgrade it just to make sure it
    > upgrades correctly, like if I moved the data to a test box that had
    > the 2012 software on it, but not authenticate to edirectory. Also, do
    > my steps look correct order for accomplishing this task? Any help or
    > suggestions would be appreciated.


    The reason we say that is because we officially tested, certified, and
    QA'ed upgrading from 8 or 2012 to 2014. However, I've had a number of
    customers upgrade to 2014 directly from 7.0, and I have one customer
    right now getting ready to go from 6.5 to 2014. Even if you want to do
    it "by the book," we only officially support upgrading from 7.0 or 8.0
    to 2012, so you'd look at multiple steps here. I say just go directly
    to 2014. And as Laura said, you'll have to use a 64-bit OS. If you're
    going to keep it on Windows I recommend 2012 or 2012 R2 simply because
    Microsoft has dropped general support for 2008 R2.

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  • No I am moving it to SuSE for sure. I have already installed a SuSE 11 sp3 64bit box as well. So I plan to dbcopy the data over and doing the upgrade in place. I think I am going to move it to 2012 first, I guess just playing it safe. Then once that looks good moving it to 2014. This is version 6.0, no supports packs as well, hasn't been touched in 10 years. Statement for sure for Novell on the reliability of GroupWise.
  • They are going to be flabbergasted with all the new functionality and client looks! :)

    I second that first going to 2012 is a good thing to do.
    That extra step will give you the opportunity to first walk through all the agent settings to make sure they are all correctly set (using TCP links, http agens enabled, correct platform set, etc) as to make the upgrade to 2014 as smooth as possible.

    Danita's 2014 guide is extra good to have in this case, as it contains lot's of good info in checking
  • They are going to be flabbergasted with all the new functionality and client looks! :)

    I second that first going to 2012 is a good thing to do.
    That extra step will give you the opportunity to first walk through all the agent settings to make sure they are all correctly set (using TCP links, http agens enabled, correct platform set, etc) as to make the upgrade to 2014 as smooth as possible.

    Danita's 2014 guide is extra good to have in this case, as it contains lot's of good info in checking
  • magic31 wrote:

    > As far as upgrading the databases from 6 to 2012... I haven't done an
    > upgrade with a version that old to 2014, but have done a 7 to 2014
    > without issues.


    I had a customer go from 6.5 to 2012 without issues.

    > After the upgrade to 2012 (and before going to 2014) I'd also be
    > doing a full TDR structural rebuild of ALL databases in the PO.


    I would do that before the upgrade as well.

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  • I recently completed a GroupWise 6.5 to 2014 migration, but I did the following:

    GW 6.5 to 8 on Netware
    Create new eDirectory, users etc on SLES
    Install GroupWise 2012 on new server
    FID edit users to match setup on NetWare eDirectory
    Archive all users email from GroupWise 8 then un-archive onto GroupWise 2012
    Upgrade from 2012 to 2014

    I went with this method after trying a DBcopy, graft NDS etc only to find it failed to complete over a weekend (only downtime we can have) and having numerous eDirectory problems. I decided the health and setup of eDirectory on Netware servers was beyond saving. We have 150 users, so wasn't the biggest issue creating users all over again, and it gave me the opportunity to create Tree, Contexts etc how I want.
  • It is authenticating to edirectory once all done. Thanks for the info, most appreciated.
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