GroupWise 2012 which OES (Linux version)

I am a little confused

Novell offers both Novell Open Enterprise Server 11 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11, does it matter which one GroupWise 2012 runs on? Is it better to put GroupWise on it's own server (virtual) and have the file server be separate?

I have a new box that I am going to virtualize and just took 3115 and 3116 for SUSE Linux intro and admin, now I am wondering if I shouldn't have taken a class on Novell Open Enterprise Server 11 instead.

Any suggestions or advice is appreciated!

Mike
  • every groupwise install i've always done has been on an OES box, mainly so I have a local copy of edir on it (it's not necessary but I prefer things that way)

    it would probably be better to separate them depending on how large a system you are going to have and how many users

    there's no issue with running everything on a single server though if its a small system

    so long as the underlying version of SLES 11 is supported then you can run it either on oes or plain sles - you might want to check what you are actually licensed for, as you get entitlements to sles when you purchase groupwise

    the latest groupwise system I set up was on oes 11 sp1 (which is sles 11 sp2), the groupwise version was 2012 sp1

    some more detail about how many users, amoutn of file data and size of the groupwise system will make it easier for us to recommend the best scenario for you :)
  • In article <51B973B6.9454.0078.0@umchs.org>, Mike Snyder wrote:
    > Novell offers both Novell Open Enterprise Server 11 and SUSE Linux
    > Enterprise Server 11, does it matter which one GroupWise 2012 runs
    > on? Is it better to put GroupWise on it's own server (virtual)
    > and have the file server be separate?


    Having a separate virtual server is a very good thing, and is certainly
    the way IT is moving overall.

    OES (which runs on SLES) vs SLES is really an issue of what else do you
    have in your environment.
    If you are already a NetWare/OES shop or are moving in that direction,
    then OES would likely be your best bet, otherwise pure SLES is likely
    your best choice. What are you doing for file services? What sort of
    user count are we looking at?



    Andy Konecny
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    KonecnyConsulting.ca in Toronto
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  • I am new to virtualization, never looked into it because it wasn't an issue. We have a small office of 30 people and we have 150 total staff who have a GW email account.

    I am planning on first setting up GW 2012 on the new virtualized server I have, either on OES (running on SLES) or SLES.

    I am currently running GW 8 on Netware 6.5 SP8. The file server and post office are all on one HP box. I plan on eventually upgrading and moving the file server over to the virtualized server and will likely get OES (SLES) running as my file server too.

    Baby steps, new to linux and so far seems fairly straight forward with no kinks. When we upgraded our server about 3 years ago a technician assisting me talked me out of OES (SLES) which in hindsight I wish had not happened.

    So my plan is to A. get GW 2012 up and running on a stable OS (best option for this to run on) and migrate my PO over from GW8 to GW12.


    >>> Andy Konecny<konecnya@no-mx.forums.novell.com> 6/14/2013 4:16 PM >>>

    In article <51B973B6.9454.0078.0@umchs.org>, Mike Snyder wrote:

    > Novell offers both Novell Open Enterprise Server 11 and SUSE Linux
    > Enterprise Server 11, does it matter which one GroupWise 2012 runs
    > on? Is it better to put GroupWise on it's own server (virtual)
    > and have the file server be separate?


    Having a separate virtual server is a very good thing, and is certainly
    the way IT is moving overall.

    OES (which runs on SLES) vs SLES is really an issue of what else do you
    have in your environment.
    If you are already a NetWare/OES shop or are moving in that direction,
    then OES would likely be your best bet, otherwise pure SLES is likely
    your best choice. What are you doing for file services? What sort of
    user count are we looking at?



    Andy Konecny
    Knowledge Partner (voluntary SysOp)
    KonecnyConsulting.ca in Toronto
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  • Hi

    Personally I prefer to run my GroupWise systems on OES11SP1 with the GroupWise data on NSS volumes - I've just found this to be the easiest option for me overall.

    I love virtualization and strongly recommend it.

    Everything that you've learnt in your classes on SLES is still relevant as that is the underlying operating system of OES.

    Danita has some great guides on moving GroupWise from NetWare to Linux (OES/SLES) and upgrading from 8 to 2012: Caledonia | Welcome to Caledonia! | Your Place for all things GroupWise

    Cheers,
  • In article <51D3DE41.9454.0078.0@umchs.org>, Mike Snyder wrote:
    > I am new to virtualization, never looked into it because it wasn't
    > an issue. We have a small office of 30 people and we have 150
    > total staff who have a GW email account.
    >
    > I am planning on first setting up GW 2012 on the new virtualized
    > server I have, either on OES (running on SLES) or SLES.


    Virtualization has certainly become a very useful option for such
    environments. Allows them to have many 'servers' without the box
    count.

    Have you chosen your virtualization platform yet?
    - VMware's ESXi is free, very well known with lots of skill around,
    widest support of guest OSes. Also gives a nice upgrade path to full
    vSphere should the needs grow.
    - MS's HyperV. Good if you have lots of Windows and depending on your
    licensing you may already be licensed. Otherwise may be too pricey.
    - OpenSource XEN might be an option, though I found it needs much
    harder to work with than the other options. Not sure where this is
    going given Citrix having bought the organization that was behind this.
    - Citrix XEN. Probably priced beyond your current needs.
    - KVM. I haven't work with this one yet to have any comment. There may
    be others as well.

    Note that all virtualization is pickier about the base hardware than
    normal server needs, because they push the hardware that much more.
    Make sure your hardware supports/is supported by at least the top two
    options.


    Andy Konecny
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    KonecnyConsulting.ca in Toronto
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  • Andy Konecny wrote:

    > Note that all virtualization is pickier about the base hardware than normal
    > server needs, because they push the hardware that much more. Make sure your
    > hardware supports/is supported by at least the top two options.


    I recently installed a new ESXi 5.1 server and was pleasantly surprised to find
    that my "stock" hardware from a no-name builder worked perfectly. I was
    expecting to have to run out and at least get a new NIC!

    --
    Danita
    Novell Knowledge Partner
    Do you have Willem Bagchus' GW 2012 Admin Guide?
    http://www.facebook.com/caledonia.net
  • In article <mpro.mqi7op28xrav305a2.dzanre@no-mx.forums.novell.com>, DZanre wrote:
    > I recently installed a new ESXi 5.1 server and was pleasantly surprised to find
    > that my "stock" hardware from a no-name builder worked perfectly. I was
    > expecting to have to run out and at least get a new NIC!
    >

    Perhaps we are on the cusp of ESXi/Linux support to be as good as Windows? Or the
    scary future where it is even better than for Windows?


    Andy Konecny
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    KonecnyConsulting.ca in Toronto
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