After installing nw65sp7, when I go to imanager on the netware server to manage iprint, I get two entries for most choices. This is what is under the iprint roles
You somehow have the options for both the NetWare and the Linux iPrint plugins mixed. Are you using RBS? If yes, make sure you update your collections. Also, if you don't have any OES(2)/Linux server, then simply remove the iPrint/Linux plugin from your iManager installation.
Why doesn't the iimanager for windows on my xp workstation have the stuff for netware?
>>> On 2/4/2008 at 2:09 PM, in message <vpJpj.29140$k06.7783@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > You somehow have the options for both the NetWare and the Linux iPrint > plugins mixed. > Are you using RBS? If yes, make sure you update your collections. Also, > if > you don't have any OES(2)/Linux server, then simply remove the > iPrint/Linux plugin from your iManager installation.
I installed ALL the plugins when I installed it on the workstation.
>>> On 2/4/2008 at 3:53 PM, in message <lXKpj.29201$k06.28266@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Alberto de_la_Torre wrote: > >>Why doesn't the iimanager for windows on my xp workstation have the stuff >>for netware? > > Because you didn't install it?
Like I said in my other post, I installed ALL the plugins when I install iManager 2.7 on my xp workstation.
I just uninstalled the linux iPrint plugin.
But there are no regular iprint plugins.
when I click on "
Some of the roles and tasks are not available."
I see.
Client Configuration iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Broker iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Printer iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Print Service Manager iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. RPM Configuration iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device.
I don't see any plugins related to the above stuff on the available plugins page.
Any idea how I can fix this?
>>> On 2/4/2008 at 3:53 PM, in message <lXKpj.29201$k06.28266@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Alberto de_la_Torre wrote: > >>Why doesn't the iimanager for windows on my xp workstation have the stuff >>for netware? > > Because you didn't install it?
Like I said in my other post, I installed ALL the plugins when I install iManager 2.7 on my xp workstation.
I just uninstalled the linux iPrint plugin.
But there are no regular iprint plugins.
when I click on "
Some of the roles and tasks are not available."
I see.
Client Configuration iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Broker iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Printer iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. Manage Print Service Manager iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device. RPM Configuration iPrint Management No pages run in the current environment or support the current device.
I don't see any plugins related to the above stuff on the available plugins page.
Any idea how I can fix this?
>>> On 2/4/2008 at 3:53 PM, in message <lXKpj.29201$k06.28266@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Alberto de_la_Torre wrote: > >>Why doesn't the iimanager for windows on my xp workstation have the stuff >>for netware? > > Because you didn't install it?
Did you install the windows server version by any chance? Only the workstation version works with the iPrint plugin and the workstation version just comes as a ZIP file to unpack and does not include any installation program that puts any links on the desktop.
Maybe it's too much to expect that the install for a tools which is only supposed to run on server would actually check the OS it's being installed to.
Anyway, after installing the workstation version. We now have the following 2 problems:
1 - If you try to create a printer driver profile you get the message:
Creating and modifying driver profiles is only supported on IE 5.5 and above.
2 - If you launch IE and run it, after you click OK to create the printer driver profile, it shows progress bars with LOADING, then you get an error window which says:
Error message: the operation completed successfully.
Error group: Windows Error code: 0
But you do NOT have the screen where you can manipulate the printer settings.
3 - running it from IE on another workstation, you can get to the screen where you can change printer settings, but when you click OK to try and save those settings, it just hangs.
I am at my wits end with the low quality of the management tools for Novell environments. At least in the windows world, the management tools just work, and you don't waste days of time just troubleshooting a tool to manage your network.
>>> On 2/5/2008 at 4:05 PM, in message <Oc4qj.29933$k06.11281@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Did you install the windows server version by any chance? Only the > workstation version works with the iPrint plugin and the workstation > version just comes as a ZIP file to unpack and does not include any > installation program that puts any links on the desktop.
>Maybe it's too much to expect that the install for a tools which is only >supposed to run on server would actually check the OS it's being installed >to.
Well, technically, iManager 2.7 server does not require any Windows server specific component and as such can also run on a Windows workstation. It is just common usage for virtually all third party software companies that when they provide a server type product, they ask you to run it on a Windows server even if technically the product just runs fine on a Windows workstation as well. I think this is also related to Microsoft's Windows license conditions.
As for your iManager problems in general, it all boils down to the fact the the iPrint/NetWare plugin is the most particular and delicate plugin of them all. IT requires native NDPS libraries on the platform it runs on and it also requires the IE as browser and the iPrint client activex control to be active in the browser. I think Novell never really intended this plugin to run on anything else but NetWare servers and it just happens to kind of run on Windows workstations as well. Most other iManager plugins are platform neutral and for those, you just unzip iManager, you install the plugin and you go.
As for your actual problem, what version of IE is installed on your workstation? You have to make sure that the iPrint client is correctly installed, and if you are using IE7, you also have to make sure that the activex control for the iPrint client is activated in IE.
I get the same behavior when trying create a printer profile for this printer whether I use local iManager on xp or the iManager on the server.
>>> On 2/6/2008 at 2:22 PM, in message <fOnqj.30402$k06.13921@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Alberto de_la_Torre wrote: > >>Maybe it's too much to expect that the install for a tools which is only >>supposed to run on server would actually check the OS it's being > installed >>to. > > Well, technically, iManager 2.7 server does not require any Windows > server > specific component and as such can also run on a Windows workstation. It > > is just common usage for virtually all third party software companies > that > when they provide a server type product, they ask you to run it on a > Windows server even if technically the product just runs fine on a > Windows > workstation as well. I think this is also related to Microsoft's Windows > > license conditions. > > As for your iManager problems in general, it all boils down to the fact > the the iPrint/NetWare plugin is the most particular and delicate plugin > > of them all. IT requires native NDPS libraries on the platform it runs > on > and it also requires the IE as browser and the iPrint client activex > control to be active in the browser. I think Novell never really > intended > this plugin to run on anything else but NetWare servers and it just > happens to kind of run on Windows workstations as well. > Most other iManager plugins are platform neutral and for those, you just > > unzip iManager, you install the plugin and you go. > > As for your actual problem, what version of IE is installed on your > workstation? You have to make sure that the iPrint client is correctly > installed, and if you are using IE7, you also have to make sure that the > > activex control for the iPrint client is activated in IE.
>I get the same behavior when trying create a printer profile for this >printer whether I use local iManager on xp or the iManager on the server.
In that case, it is possible that you just have a driver that is iPrint unfriendly. Have you checked whether you have the same problem with other types of printers?
the problem is only with this driver. "iPrint unfriendly" is a pretty vague term.
Is there some way to get more information of a technical nature so that we can show the vendor what the problem is?
>>> On 2/7/2008 at 2:43 AM, in message <foec75$92f$1@linux.cie.etat.lu>, Marcel Cox<cimetmc@myrealbox.com> wrote: > Alberto de_la_Torre wrote: > >>I get the same behavior when trying create a printer profile for this >>printer whether I use local iManager on xp or the iManager on the server. > > In that case, it is possible that you just have a driver that is iPrint > unfriendly. Have you checked whether you have the same problem with > other > types of printers?