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ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Hi,

We're looking to migrate from Zenworks 7 to ZCM 10 in the coming weeks but have noticed a few differences in 10 that were useful in 7. One of which is the lack of a non-volatile user created by a DLU policy.

7 allowed us to login as a certain user (Localuser) and set up an array of application specific items and then have that user remain in place once the machine logs out. I can't see how 10 would allow us to do this!

Did Novell give any reason for removing this feature or is there a way around it?

Cheers,

Neil.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Try http://support.novell.com/enhancement and ask for "Volatile User
Caching" to be brought back.

I know you are not the 1st to ask, but the more that ask for something the
more chance it has of being done.

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"mcslemon" <mcslemon@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> We're looking to migrate from Zenworks 7 to ZCM 10 in the coming weeks
> but have noticed a few differences in 10 that were useful in 7. One of
> which is the lack of a non-volatile user created by a DLU policy.
>
> 7 allowed us to login as a certain user (Localuser) and set up an array
> of application specific items and then have that user remain in place
> once the machine logs out. I can't see how 10 would allow us to do
> this!
>
> Did Novell give any reason for removing this feature or is there a way
> around it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neil.
>
>
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Jules2003 Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Hi

We use non-volatile users in ZCM 10. If the tick box for volatile users is unchecked then it is presumed that the user is going to be non-volatile.

Or like Craig says is it caching you are referring to?.

Cheers
Julian.

mcslemon;1614667 wrote:
Hi,

We're looking to migrate from Zenworks 7 to ZCM 10 in the coming weeks but have noticed a few differences in 10 that were useful in 7. One of which is the lack of a non-volatile user created by a DLU policy.

7 allowed us to login as a certain user (Localuser) and set up an array of application specific items and then have that user remain in place once the machine logs out. I can't see how 10 would allow us to do this!

Did Novell give any reason for removing this feature or is there a way around it?

Cheers,

Neil.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

He appears to be using the "Specified Credentials" instead of "User Source"
for his DLU.
This forces the "volatile" setting.
The way to get around it in ZDM7, was to enable DLU Caching.

I presume another Enhancement Request would be to not force this account to
be Volatile.

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"Jules2003" <Jules2003@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> We use non-volatile users in ZCM 10. If the tick box for volatile users
> is unchecked then it is presumed that the user is going to be
> non-volatile.
>
> Or like Craig says is it caching you are referring to?.
>
> Cheers
> Julian.
>
> mcslemon;1614667 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We're looking to migrate from Zenworks 7 to ZCM 10 in the coming weeks
>> but have noticed a few differences in 10 that were useful in 7. One of
>> which is the lack of a non-volatile user created by a DLU policy.
>>
>> 7 allowed us to login as a certain user (Localuser) and set up an array
>> of application specific items and then have that user remain in place
>> once the machine logs out. I can't see how 10 would allow us to do
>> this!
>>
>> Did Novell give any reason for removing this feature or is there a way
>> around it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Neil.

>
>
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mcslemon Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Yeah, it's basically volatile user caching.

I've had a chat with a chappy at Novell and he confirmed that this is what it is.

He's added my request to the enhancement request for DLU but thinks it's going to be 6 months plus! So for the time being we're going to look into Roaming Profiles which isn't ideal but is a possible short term fix.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Also look into "Folder Redirection".
This way you don't need to swap the stuff up/down at each logon.


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"mcslemon" <mcslemon@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, it's basically volatile user caching.
>
> I've had a chat with a chappy at Novell and he confirmed that this is
> what it is.
>
> He's added my request to the enhancement request for DLU but thinks
> it's going to be 6 months plus! So for the time being we're going to
> look into Roaming Profiles which isn't ideal but is a possible short
> term fix.
>
>
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shaunpond Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Mcslemon,

very helpful these chaps at Novell... 😉

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mcslemon Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Hello! 🙂

Thought I'd give my post a bump!

We're restarted our ZCM project this year as we have more bods to work on it now! Whoop!

I've set up a test server and have patched it to 10.1.2 in the hope that the "Use the credential specified below (Always volatile)" text had disappeared and been replaced by "Use the credential specified below" and a nice tick box to give me the choice of being Always volatile... but alas! Anyone know if this is going to be changed? It's going to be a major headache for us if it isn't adjusted.

Any thoughts?

Neil.
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shaunpond Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Mcslemon,

I believe that it's being looked at for version 10.2 - that's sometime
in the summer...

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mcslemon Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

spond;1712469 wrote:
Mcslemon,

I believe that it's being looked at for version 10.2 - that's sometime
in the summer...

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Shaun Pond


Thanks, Shaun. Hope you had a good winter break?

Neil.
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shaunpond Absent Member.
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Re: ZCM1 10.1 DLU Volatile user

Mcslemon,

I had a few days break from working, but we had a house full of family,
so not much rest 😉

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