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MSO2K7 template

Trying to do a very quick demo package of MSO 2007 Ultimate, using the
built-in template.

Everything works fine -except- re. the shortcuts for execution. I can
successfully build one app at a time, but the template seems to imply
that I could build the whole suite, with each of the separate shortcuts
for each program, at one time and as a single package.

Am I mis-reading? When I try to do that (build all the apps instead of
a single one) all the apps start at once; I don't seem to have an
option to build separate startup shortcuts for each program. And if I
build one program at a time, each of those programs prompts for
activation the first time it's run on a given machine, instead of the
entire suite activating once on each machine.

Remember, this is using the template, because I wanted to do a fast
demo/example of a complex program. So I haven't tried to manually use
the MSI or build a custom install with the office deployment tool & then
virtualize via the MSI+MSP. I'm just trying to use the template to do a
plain vanilla install of the whole suite using the template, which
presumably uses the default MSI from the original CD.

I'm sure there's something I'm missing in this, as the demo's seem to
show that I could virtualize the whole suite at once and have -separate-
startup shorcuts, but .... what's the quirk to do this, what do I need
to change from the provided template? Or is it not actually possible?

Using Version 8 of the studio right now, which I think is the latest
release.

Thanks.

-- DE
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You need to use a VLK version of Office for starters. You can do what you're trying to accomplish, just not with non VLK versions of Office. You may want to try the Open Office template if all you're looking for is a quick demo of a complex app.
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dholmesscsd wrote:
> You need to use a VLK version of Office for starters. You can do what
> you're trying to accomplish, just not with non VLK versions of Office.
> You may want to try the Open Office template if all you're looking for
> is a quick demo of a complex app.
>
>

Just to be sure I'm being clear: it's not the activation that's bugging
me (I expected that.) It's that the template seems to build a single
app, and yet it appears to be intended to build the whole suite with the
individual apps able to run separately. What happens when I try to use
it is that I either end up with all the apps opening at once, or only
one app built at a time. What I'm trying to understand is if I can use
the template to provide access to all the apps (activation aside), i.e.
to build virtualized Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc. with a single run
using the provided template.

I do have secondary reasons for using MSO2K7 for this particular
demonstration, though, not worth going into here.

Thanks.

-- DE
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You want to take a look at chapter 4.4 in the documentation, where it's talking about Jukeboxing.

- Joakim Jader
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I was under the impression, at least with versions up to 7.3 of ZAV, that non VLK versions would not virtualize properly at all with the template provided. It wasn't an activation issue so much as the template was never designed to work with non VLK versions. I've never actually tried this myself so can't verify since we always use a VLK. I'd try doing a manual snapshot version instead of the template and see if that works.


Just to be sure I'm being clear: it's not the activation that's bugging
me (I expected that.) It's that the template seems to build a single
app, and yet it appears to be intended to build the whole suite with the
individual apps able to run separately. What happens when I try to use
it is that I either end up with all the apps opening at once, or only
one app built at a time. What I'm trying to understand is if I can use
the template to provide access to all the apps (activation aside), i.e.
to build virtualized Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc. with a single run
using the provided template.

I do have secondary reasons for using MSO2K7 for this particular
demonstration, though, not worth going into here.

Thanks.

-- DE
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Putting aside the question I had about the individual apps, I had
absolutely no issues at all just building a single app (i.e. build just
for Word) using the template & just checkmarking for the one app to
start up. The version I used was actually our household's MSO 2007
Student-and-Teacher version, because that version allows
installing/activating on up to 3 computers (so I wasn't risking the only
running copy on my student-daughter's computer.)

I can't imagine why it shouldn't be able to be done, though I can
certainly see that there is going to be an activation issue with any
other type of licensing. Interestingly, the virtualized version on a
USB key simply wants to activate once for any given hardware, and
doesn't ask for activation again on that particular system but only if
moved to another system.

I would think that it would work much like pushing out in the past with
Zenworks/NAL + the MSI or customized deployment.

Still, I don't know what good it does to push out a non-VLK version for
any "real" use, since every copy has to activate. I'm just not about to
get the company into a VLK agreement until they're ready to make the
company-wide purchase and proceed with deployment.

In this case, I was building it to demo both the app virtualization and
to give the PTB some insight re. the MSO2K7 interface changes, since
they had not seen it or run it, and had questions about employees
adapting to the changes against earlier versions.

Thanks to all for the input, anyway. So far, my one hurdle is a very
customized database app (Progress, nothing easy like SQL!) which I
currently deploy with a snapshot, packaged w/Zenworks 6.5 & provided via
NAL ... and I suspect I'll be able to virtualize that with some work on it.


-- DE



dholmesscsd wrote:
> I was under the impression, at least with versions up to 7.3 of ZAV,
> that non VLK versions would not virtualize properly at all with the
> template provided. It wasn't an activation issue so much as the template
> was never designed to work with non VLK versions. I've never actually
> tried this myself so can't verify since we always use a VLK. I'd try
> doing a manual snapshot version instead of the template and see if that
> works.
>
>> Just to be sure I'm being clear: it's not the activation that's
>> bugging
>> me (I expected that.) It's that the template seems to build a single
>> app, and yet it appears to be intended to build the whole suite with
>> the
>> individual apps able to run separately. What happens when I try to
>> use
>> it is that I either end up with all the apps opening at once, or only
>> one app built at a time. What I'm trying to understand is if I can
>> use
>> the template to provide access to all the apps (activation aside),
>> i.e.
>> to build virtualized Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc. with a single run
>> using the provided template.
>>
>> I do have secondary reasons for using MSO2K7 for this particular
>> demonstration, though, not worth going into here.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- DE

>
>

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jjader wrote:
> You want to take a look at chapter 4.4 in the documentation, where it's
> talking about Jukeboxing.
>
>

Thanks for the pointer. It may be that, just as simple as not knowing
where to look in the (somewhat lacking, IMO) documentation.

Sometimes I don't even know what term I should be looking for, as in
this case!
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