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nntp access

Hi,

what are the parameters to access posts on the new community site via NNTP?

 

Norbert

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

Hi Norbert,

Short answer:  none

Long answer:  We've had our nntp servers running and connecting to our vBulletin community since 2000.  Since then, our NNTP product vendor has dropped support for NNTP servers, as have almost all other vendors.  There are a couple of opensource NNTP server software instances available, but nobody is doing any support or enhancements to them.   NNTP, though a great collaboration protocol, is almost a dead protocol.  Lithium, the company that makes this community platform doesn't support it.   Looking at the statistics from our vBulletin community, we have only about 5% of users that use NNTP.  Put all of that together and the decision was made to drop the NNTP interface in this new communtiy site.   

Personally, I think that's sad because I really like interacting via NNTP.  There are just too many obstacles to keep it viable for our community.  Sorry about that.    

There are a couple of good things, however, that mitigate this inconvenience.   In this community site, there are a number of RSS options for reading without having to actually visit this site.  Another good thing is that you can subscribe to forums and/or individual posts which sends you an email with any updates.   You can respond directy from the email without having to visit this site.  

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Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: nntp access

Hi Kim,

> only about 5% of users use NNTP
And how many of the total answers in the forums are from these 5%? I myself use web-interfaces only for occasional searching. I don't engage in communities that can't be accessed from a native desktop app.

> Another good thing is that you can subscribe to forums and/or individual posts which sends you an email with any updates
Does that mean it will basically work like a mailing list?

Regards
Norbert
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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

Good point.   A much higher percentage of the answers come from NNTP.  Unfortunately with no NNTP vendor support and Lithium not supporting an NNTP connection, there is nothing we can do. 

Yes, using subscriptions and email, the community can act much like a mailing list. 

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Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: nntp access

Hi Kim,

for it to work as a mailing list, we'd need some proper headers instead of just "From: no-reply@microfocus.com":

From: memberid <>
To: Example Product <example@lists.novell.com>
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Example Product <hpemicro.prod|...@reply01.lithium.com>
List-Id: Example Product <example.lists.novell.com>
Sender: example <example-bounces@lists.novell.com>

Especially the List-id is required to sort posts into folders.

Norbert

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

That will be something to look into after we've finished our migration projects.

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Micro Focus Contributor
Micro Focus Contributor

Re: nntp access

Hi Kim,

 

What ever the excuse is, not to have nntp, it still makes it more difficult to use this "forum". I personally don't like this form as you are required to be online all the time, which is not always possible.

And the mailing list ... until it's available we don't know if it will work.

Loosing NNTP is not a step forward, it's a leap backwards.

Casper

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

No argument from me, but it's the way it is.   As for mailing lists, You can subscribe to any forum or discussion and have the information come right to your mailbox.  You can also replly to messages via email.   There's also RSS feeds available on every page if you are interested in just reading without having to wait for web pages to load.

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dcbib Frequent Contributor.
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Re: nntp access

So the servers nntp.novell.com are really dead? To bad, I had added them to my GroupWise, and it was really easy to see, if there were any interesting posts.

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

@dcbib yes, the NNTP servers are really dead.  FYI for ease of reading, similar to NNTP, we have RSS feeds available on all areas like the GroupWise User Discussions and GroupWise Tips & Information areas.  Go to OPTIONS and look there.  You can also subscribe at a forum and/or discussion level and reply via email if desired:

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
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Re: nntp access

I don't think anyone here is purposely trying to get anyone to leave GroupWise. My suggestion to you is to ask about it in the GroupWise discussion forum: https://community.microfocus.com/t5/GroupWise-User-Discussions/bd-p/GW_Discussions
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dcbib Frequent Contributor.
Frequent Contributor.

Re: nntp access

At last I managed to get the RSS-feeds into my GroupWise.
I also discovered, I had to activate "Full Page" view instead of "Summary", if I want to see any replies. But the formatting is terrible. Is there a way to change this?

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Community Manager kgroneman Community Manager
Community Manager

Re: nntp access

RSS feeds are xml. It's up to the RSS reader to interpret how to display it. Various readers display it differently. I prefer Feedbro (Chrome extension).
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dcbib Frequent Contributor.
Frequent Contributor.

Re: nntp access

feedbro Works fine.
But I don't understand, why I have to use an external reader. Shouldn't the rss reader integrated in Micro Focus GroupWise be able to deliver a decent output from the Micro Focus Community rss feeds? Or is this just another step to try to make us leave GroupWise?

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