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2014-01-10
06:11
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Cannot seem to override the Default Class of Service
I have configured a server for IMAP and POP3 access. On the GWIA for this server, I have configured a new class of service that gives the specified user accounts (Groupwise authentication) access to POP3, IMAP, SMTP Incoming, and SMTP outgoing.
The Default Class of Service which contains Everyone allows SMTP Incoming and SMTP Outgoing. If I prevent SMTP Incoming, SMTP outgoing, users who are in the new IMAP/POP3 class of service can no longer connect by using SMTP. This behavior occurs even though they are members of the new class of service which allows this.
The documentation says that if the user entries are at the same level (the user level in this case (everyone versus individual groupwise accounts)), the least restrictive setting should take precedence.
On this particular GWIA, I would like to restrict SMTP connections to only the members of the particular class of service (to limit the authenticated spam attack vector). However, it does not seem possible.
I would really appreciate any help pointing me in the right direction. Not sure what I am missing here.
Thank you very much!
Dennis
The Default Class of Service which contains Everyone allows SMTP Incoming and SMTP Outgoing. If I prevent SMTP Incoming, SMTP outgoing, users who are in the new IMAP/POP3 class of service can no longer connect by using SMTP. This behavior occurs even though they are members of the new class of service which allows this.
The documentation says that if the user entries are at the same level (the user level in this case (everyone versus individual groupwise accounts)), the least restrictive setting should take precedence.
On this particular GWIA, I would like to restrict SMTP connections to only the members of the particular class of service (to limit the authenticated spam attack vector). However, it does not seem possible.
I would really appreciate any help pointing me in the right direction. Not sure what I am missing here.
Thank you very much!
Dennis
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laurabuckley

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2014-01-10
06:38
Hi Dennis,
Have you tried the "Test" option on your class of service to see what exactly is applying to a user assigned to your created class of service?
Details on how to do this here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html#a2zzdna
Let us know.
Cheers,
Have you tried the "Test" option on your class of service to see what exactly is applying to a user assigned to your created class of service?
Details on how to do this here: http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html#a2zzdna
Let us know.
Cheers,
Laura Buckley
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2014-01-10
13:57
Yes, thank you. I tried that. With the default class of service disabling SMTP and the new IMAP COS enabling SMTP, the test shows that I have the rights to send and receive SMTP messages. However, after the GWIA restarts, the imap client (Mac Mail) can no longer connect to the server.
I was wondering whether this could be related to some setting on the post office server (Netware) or if there is something simple that I have missed.
The SMTP settings on the GWIA are configured to use port 25 with SSL allowed. The firewall is configured to forward 465 to port 25 on the GWIA.
Mac Mail is configured for an authenticated connection using port 465.
This seems to have some (one) of the symptoms of a damaged GWIA database because there does not seem to be a connection attempt on the post office server. However, I think that if the database was damaged, the connection would not work when the default class of service allows SMTP.
I will try validating the database anyway.
Thank you for your help!
Dennis
I was wondering whether this could be related to some setting on the post office server (Netware) or if there is something simple that I have missed.
The SMTP settings on the GWIA are configured to use port 25 with SSL allowed. The firewall is configured to forward 465 to port 25 on the GWIA.
Mac Mail is configured for an authenticated connection using port 465.
This seems to have some (one) of the symptoms of a damaged GWIA database because there does not seem to be a connection attempt on the post office server. However, I think that if the database was damaged, the connection would not work when the default class of service allows SMTP.
I will try validating the database anyway.
Thank you for your help!
Dennis
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2014-01-10
15:44
Hi Dennis,
Definatly do a database validation - issues can creep in on systems that have been upgraded in particular.
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
Definatly do a database validation - issues can creep in on systems that have been upgraded in particular.
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
Laura Buckley
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2014-01-10
17:48
The database validation shows no errors.
Thank you
Thank you
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2014-01-11
10:46
Dennis,
from reading your postings, I cannot determine if there's a misunderstanding in the concept of classes of service. Check the conflict resolution table here:
http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html
As a rule of thumb, I always leave the default class untouched. I then add users (or POs) to a new class of service which will restrict the user's abilities.
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from reading your postings, I cannot determine if there's a misunderstanding in the concept of classes of service. Check the conflict resolution table here:
http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html
As a rule of thumb, I always leave the default class untouched. I then add users (or POs) to a new class of service which will restrict the user's abilities.
Uwe
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Please don't send me support related e-mail unless I ask you to do so.
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2014-01-11
17:50
Hi Dennis,
Let me make a suggestion if I may?
Reset your default class of service back to its defaults.
Create a new class of service denying what you want to deny to "everybody" - add all your domains to this COS.
Create a distribution list and add, as members, everybody on the exception list eg SMTP allowed
Create a new class of service and assign it to the distribution list and enable the relevant services.
The distribution list makes future management of such things easier, hence my suggestion!
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
Let me make a suggestion if I may?
Reset your default class of service back to its defaults.
Create a new class of service denying what you want to deny to "everybody" - add all your domains to this COS.
Create a distribution list and add, as members, everybody on the exception list eg SMTP allowed
Create a new class of service and assign it to the distribution list and enable the relevant services.
The distribution list makes future management of such things easier, hence my suggestion!
Let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
Laura Buckley
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2014-01-13
21:50
OH.
Wow. Sorry. I have been thinking of it in reverse. Forbidding everything in the Default COS and then enabling it with new COS's. I will try this right away.
Thank you very much!
Wow. Sorry. I have been thinking of it in reverse. Forbidding everything in the Default COS and then enabling it with new COS's. I will try this right away.
Thank you very much!
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2014-01-13
22:38
Thank you all for your help with this. Your instructions worked perfectly.
For some reason, the information at http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html seems to have confused me. Specifically, the following paragraph:
I really appreciate all your help with this.
Thank you !
Dennis
For some reason, the information at http://www.novell.com/documentation/gw8/gw8_admin/data/a2zz2fk.html seems to have confused me. Specifically, the following paragraph:
If a user’s membership in two classes of service is based upon the same level of membership (for example, both through individual user membership), the class that applies is the one that allows the most privileges
I really appreciate all your help with this.
Thank you !
Dennis
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2014-01-14
05:42
Hi Dennis,
So glad that you came right with this. Thanks for letting us know - that way we all learn.
Cheers,
So glad that you came right with this. Thanks for letting us know - that way we all learn.
Cheers,
Laura Buckley
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