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GW 2018 (18.1) Not Supported On OES 11 - Options?

Currently I have GroupWise 18.0.2 running on an OES 11 Sp3 Vmware VM.

The OES 11 OS runs on an E Disk1 and my Post Office / Domain resides on Disk2 which is an NSS Volume.

All my GW 18.0.2 services run on the same server. (WebAccess, DVA, Gwia, Poa, and MTA.)

The next upgrade is GroupWise 18.1 which is not supported on OES 11.

Doing a Server Migration / Transfer ID is straight forward from OES 11 to OES 2018.

I could then simply connect the Post Office / Domain Disk2 to the OES 2018 Server after the Transfer ID has been completed.

Do I need to bring over the GroupWise install / config files from the original server to the new 2018 server.

I know I can do an In-Place Upgrade on the OES 11 server but I'm not sure that's the best option with respect to the OS.

I guess my question really is what's the procedure or how do I get my GroupWise 18.0.2 system running on OES 11 SP3 over to OES 18?
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Re: GW 2018 (18.1) Not Supported On OES 11 - Options?

dkerbaugh wrote:

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> Currently I have GroupWise 18.0.2 running on an OES 11 Sp3 Vmware VM.
>
> The OES 11 OS runs on an E Disk1 and my Post Office / Domain resides
> on Disk2 which is an NSS Volume.


It's always a good idea to a dedicated volume for your domain and post
office. That way you can assign a dedicated SCSI controller to that
volume for improved performance. If you are using VMware, you will
likely get better performance using a VMware Paravirtual adapter.


> All my GW 18.0.2 services run on the same server. (WebAccess, DVA,
> Gwia, Poa, and MTA.)


That makes an upgrade a bit easier.


> The next upgrade is GroupWise 18.1 which is not supported on OES 11.
>
> Doing a Server Migration / Transfer ID is straight forward from OES 11
> to OES 2018.


That is your best option. Remember VMware does not support major OS
upgrades to a VM and moving to OES 2018 means upgrading from SLES 11 to
SLES 12.


> I could then simply connect the Post Office / Domain Disk2 to the OES
> 2018 Server after the Transfer ID has been completed.


Yes, that is what you want to do. First you want to run gwcheck to make
sure your GroupWise 18.0.2 domain and post office are healthy and of
course you want a good backup so, even though you can simply attach
your .vmdk file from your existing VM to your new VM, I would make a
copy first. Better yet, before you start the transfer ID, clone your
existing VM just in case the unexpected should happen


> Do I need to bring over the GroupWise install / config files from the
> original server to the new 2018 server.


All you need is your Disk2 containing your GroupWise data. You will
install the new GroupWise software onto your new VM.

Remember, this is really a new version of GroupWise even though the
version number is only changing from 18.0 to 18.1. Be sure to read the
documentation and follow the steps to upgrade your domain and post
office.


> I know I can do an In-Place Upgrade on the OES 11 server but I'm not
> sure that's the best option with respect to the OS.


I covered that: VMware does not support an in-place upgrade.



> I guess my question really is what's the procedure or how do I get my
> GroupWise 18.0.2 system running on OES 11 SP3 over to OES 18?


Again, I covered the basics but be sure to consult the documentation:
https://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise18/



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Re: GW 2018 (18.1) Not Supported On OES 11 - Options?

Thank you for the reply that is very helpful.

Lastly I would then just need to compare the post office / domain / gwia startup scripts for any specific defined startup switches?

Any other config settings that I may be over looking?

Thanks again, really appreciate it.

Dave.
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dkerbaugh wrote:

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> Thank you for the reply that is very helpful.
>
> Lastly I would then just need to compare the post office / domain /
> gwia startup scripts for any specific defined startup switches?
>
> Any other config settings that I may be over looking?
>
> Thanks again, really appreciate it.
>
> Dave.


Hi Dave,

You have to remember I can't cover everything in a few lines; I can
give you a general sense of what you are facing. As always, the devil
is in the details!

Since GroupWise 18.1 is a brand new release, there are new features
available and some things with which you are familiar may work a bit
differently. If you want to be prepared to deal with possible issues,
do the following:

Be sure to read the GroupWise 18 Readme to see if there is anything
listed that could impact your installation:
https://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise18/gw18_readme/data/gw18_readme.html

Read the GroupWise 18 Installation Guide and follow the steps required
to upgrade from your previous version:
https://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise18/gw18_guide_install/data/inst_front.html

Scan the GroupWise forums to see what issues other users have
experienced. It's always better to know what you face ahead of time.

Lastly, to answer your question, you may compare settings if you wish
but it is not necessary. Should any settings be different, you would
not want to change them to the old settings.

After you install the GroupWise software there is a configuration phase
where all the appropriate settings for the new server will be saved.
Once this has been done, you will upgrade your domain and post office
databases. If you created your new server using Transfer ID, your old
server should now be shut down. If you simply created a new OES server,
make sure the old server has been shut down before beginning your
GroupWise configuration. Your GroupWise databases contain references to
your old system until they have been upgraded and you don't want your
new GroupWise trying to access the old system.

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Re: GW 2018 (18.1) Not Supported On OES 11 - Options?

In article <dkerbaugh.8uft9z@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Dkerbaugh
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> Doing a Server Migration / Transfer ID is straight forward from OES 11
> to OES 2018.


If you don't have a solid and specific reason for keeping the same
server name and IP address, it is better to bring up a new OES box in
parallel to the old. An OES identity migration has more than enough
issues with it that just gets more challenging to do the same time as a
GroupWise migration as the file migration part of the OES migration tool
doesn't handle the GroupWise databases properly.

If your GroupWise system already uses a secondary IP then the next steps
are less fiddly than if they use the server's primary IP.

Basically the process is
- Install your new OES server
- Install but don't configure GW on new box.
- Use dbcopy to get the domain and PO over (first run can be while the
system is live, then with an update run while the agents are down)
Once all data is over, remove the GW IP(s) from the old box and get them
as secondaries on the new box
- Configure the GW agents and then bring them up.

FYI: An in-place update of OES 11 to OES2015 is fairly innocuous as they
are the same base SLES11, is still supported by GW 18.1, and I've done
more than a few of them, including for GroupWise servers.


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