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GW2012 on Suse 11

Please excuse the SUSE illiterate....
Is there a "How to" on installing Suse that will be used for Groupwise?
In particular I do not know what sizes to make the Partitions, or Add-On Product to select.
Can anyone help me out?
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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

dkamp;2194747 wrote:
Please excuse the SUSE illiterate....
Is there a "How to" on installing Suse that will be used for Groupwise?
In particular I do not know what sizes to make the Partitions, or Add-On Product to select.
Can anyone help me out?


That could be a rather large answer 🙂

First question: are you looking to install GW 2012 on pure SLES 11.... or with OES 11 added on?

As for partitioning, what type of hardware will you be using, which disk sizes and how is storage connected?

Also... will the OS be running as virtual guest or physical?

Cheers,
Willem
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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

1st, Thank you for responding!
It will be pure Suse not OES added.
I haven't ordered hardware yet, so I'm taking suggestions.
Most of our POA's we limit to 500 users ad average taking 60-80Gb on the Post office folders. (OFFILES is killing us)
My test server I'm building is Physical and has 500Gb local disk.

How do I know what sizes to use for partions? Is it a percentage of total or a Hybrid being percentage but up to a particular size?
What should be the size for Swap or the /, or the /Var be?

and if the only function is GroupWise components what Add-On's should be selected or Removed from an install?

What modifications do I make if the server will only have the GroupWise Domain and GWIA?
What if only a POA?
Wow... Sorry to unload......
The Suse people tell me only the Groupwise people can tell me.



>>> magic31<magic31@no-mx.forums.novell.com> 5/9/2012 11:26 AM >>>


dkamp;2194747 Wrote:

> Please excuse the SUSE illiterate....
> Is there a "How to" on installing Suse that will be used for
> Groupwise?
> In particular I do not know what sizes to make the Partitions, or
> Add-On Product to select.
> Can anyone help me out?


That could be a rather large answer 🙂

First question: are you looking to install GW 2012 on pure SLES 11....
or with OES 11 added on?

As for partitioning, what type of hardware will you be using, which
disk sizes and how is storage connected?

Also... will the OS be running as virtual guest or physical?

Cheers,
Willem


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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

dkamp;2194787 wrote:
1st, Thank you for responding!
It will be pure Suse not OES added.
I haven't ordered hardware yet, so I'm taking suggestions.
Most of our POA's we limit to 500 users ad average taking 60-80Gb on the Post office folders. (OFFILES is killing us)
My test server I'm building is Physical and has 500Gb local disk.

How do I know what sizes to use for partions? Is it a percentage of total or a Hybrid being percentage but up to a particular size?
What should be the size for Swap or the /, or the /Var be?

and if the only function is GroupWise components what Add-On's should be selected or Removed from an install?

What modifications do I make if the server will only have the GroupWise Domain and GWIA?

What if only a POA?



Ok, if if's SLES without OES - no need for an add-on product. SLES "as is" will suffice.

I'd opt to go with SLES 11 SP2 64bit (you might need to purchase a support subscription for it as the SLES system is open source but the update repositories require authenticated access by code).
Have not yet run GroupWise on SP2 level myself, the docs state support for SUSE 10 and 11 using the latest support pack and I've read others have done it successfully.

Filesystem to use?

Starting SLES 11 SP1 XFS is a good choice as filesystem to host the GroupWise data (vs EXT3). Also have a look through the GroupWise wiki that also has sections on best practices : GroupWise - CoolSolutionsWiki When choosing XFS do make sure you have a redundant as possible system - as unexpected power or system outages have a higher chance of corrupting the filesystem then when running on EXT3. Steer clear from ReiserFS as it

Partitioning?

As for partitioning, it's somewhat dependent on what your disk layout can be made to look like. In any case, I'm one that like using LVM.
Also with partitioning, keep in mind that you can place the GroupWise data anywhere that you would like... and while it's not following the Linux File system standard I prefer placing the GroupWise databases and logs in /grpwise.

Suggestion as I'd do it (if this would be one big logical disk on a Raid controller):

*during installation choose to create a new partition setup*

partition 1, 500 MB , format as ext3 Linux partition, mount point /boot
partition 2, 14 GB , format as ext3 Linux partition, mount point / (root)
partition 3, 3 GB , format as swap , mount swap
partition 4, <rest of the free space> , do not format but set the partition type to LVM (type 8e)

Then create (under Volume Management) a new LVM Volume Group , call it VGSYSTEM and add the space from partition4 into it. Keep the offered defaults.

Now you can create LVM volumes within the created volume group VGSYSTEM. Select it and select to add a new volume;

volume1, 12 GB, name = lv_var , format as ext3, mount point to /var (<= if you are installing eDirectory on this server it will end up in /var/opt/novell/eDirectory/...)

volume2, 100 GB or more, name = lv_groupwise, format as XFS (or EXT3 with noatime option set) , mount point to /grpwise

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If the system disks can be organized to present to or more logical volumes (at hardware raid level) then you could create a new Volume Group next to VGSYSTEM, for example VGDATA (first create a 8e type partition on the second disk so the free space can be added into VGDATA) and put the lv_groupwise volume in there.

If you have enough room left you could create a LVM volume for your backup copy (dbcopy) which can be used for regular mail restore as also corrupt volume recovery.


Sizes as given for each main mount point (/boot, /, /var) have been more than enough in my experience with SLES 10. From what I've seen on our SLES 11 systems this last year or so... it's still very decent.

Hope that helps,
Willem
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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

dkamp;2194787 wrote:
(OFFILES is killing us)


Curious what you mean by this? Performance wise...?

-Willem
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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

On every POA the OFFILES folders are huge. So a short answer to your Question, No NOT Performance, overall Size, and quantity of Files.
We have a AutoPurge that runs every Saturday of items over 183 days Old. The OFFILES folders have files as old as 1997.
Even New POA's the OFFILES folders will retain files that will be as old as the day the Post office was put into production.



>>> magic31<magic31@no-mx.forums.novell.com> 5/9/2012 2:26 PM >>>


dkamp;2194787 Wrote:

> (OFFILES is killing us)


Curious what you mean by this? Performance wise...?

-Willem


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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

dkamp wrote:

> The OFFILES folders have files as old as 1997. Even New POA's the OFFILES
> folders will retain files that will be as old as the day the Post office was
> put into production.


So there are two reasons for this - one is a "problem" and one just life.

The problem one is that there are indeed times when files get "orphaned" in
OFFILES. Often doing an attclip and then a contents gwcheck will delete most of
them. Some are doomed to haunt forever I think.

However, there can be very valid files in offiles dated 1997 even if you do an
expire at 183 days. Any event "created" in 1997 that still exists (for example,
a recurrent event on a calendar, etc.) is still valid, and if an offiles entry
exists for that event, it has to stay. Any message that is forwarded that was
created in 1997 is also still there. There are MANY sites I know of where users
are aware of the cleanup options and routinely forward themselves messages over
and over in advance of the cleanup time so that they will never lose the file.
In fact, there are some very clever ways to do this that will require that files
stay in OFFILES forever, because they continue to be referenced in a valid GW
task or note, for example, that is far in the future.

So, I would try to take whatever steps you can do with the attclip and contents
check, but realize that there may be files older than your cleanup routine that
are there for a purpose. I've had sites just move anything older than "x" out
of the offiles directories and wait for someone to yell, and if no one does for
the next 90 days, then they delete them altogether.

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Re: GW2012 on Suse 11

To DZanre

>Often doing an attclip and then a contents gwcheck will delete most of
>them.


Hmm, Attclip removes references to non existing file, it doesn't remove
existing orphaned references that only exist in the message.db

Cheers Dave


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