booktrunk1 Absent Member.
Absent Member.
1514 views

Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hiya.

Ok, we had around 12gb free on the the filesystem..... then a day later all gone. Users complaining on the site, looked at it and it said 100% full there were old software directories n stuff on there from old installs, and old tar files these totalled around 4gb on a 144gb filesystem so we thought at least move them out and told it to actually delete a user that had 11gb and had left... then migrated it between clusters and now it's not starting up and showing as 100% full.... Help where do I go from here.

If it's not up but the filesystem is mounted how do i get some space on the system to be able to start it up?

Any ideas gratefully appreciated.
Labels (2)
0 Likes
13 Replies
booktrunk1 Absent Member.
Absent Member.

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

OK, so now got it running but with 0 space? How do i clear some space can i run some sort of gwcheck and force it to kill things older than say 5 years?
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

You don't mention what type of file system you are running - NSS?

Please let us know.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
booktrunk1 Absent Member.
Absent Member.

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Mailbox / library maintenance and get rid of stuff older than X days... should do it. But i'm really loath to do that.

Is there a routine to run and compress / check for space freed up in the database as we should have space and have deleted users etc... and it's not gone down at all.
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

https://www.novell.com/documentation/oes11/file_ncp_lx/data/ba2rt0c.html#ba2rtj1

This is if you did not turn purge immediate to on. Then you are going to have a ton of stale/deleted files hanging around.

Please keep us informed.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
booktrunk1 Absent Member.
Absent Member.

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Sorry PURE PANIC 🙂

I've at least got it up and running now so that's a better place to be in.... 🙂 yes nss and we now have 3.6gb free after the restart it's processed that user that we deleted along with the other stuff I moved out of the volume and we now have 3.6gb of space available.

So I know the best thing is to buy two x 300gb disk and replace the 150gb disks with 300gb and that way we have doubled the space for groupwise.... But until then what's the best routine to run in maintenance to tell it to look for and reclaim any free space in the database to help try to give it a bit more room?




laurabuckley;2425233 wrote:
Hi,

You don't mention what type of file system you are running - NSS?

Please let us know.

Cheers,
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

See post above: https://forums.novell.com/showthread.php/497771-Help-Groupwise-2014R2-0-space-on-filessytem?p=2425235#post2425235

Please let keep us updated.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

In additon to the above, if indeed you have salvage turned off and thus have no purgeable space then you only option is to run a GWCheck using Expire/Reduce.

Bear in mind that with single-instance-storage in the GroupWise system simply deleting a user who's mailbox is 11gb will not give you 11GB free space.

Please keep us updated.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

Sorry, in my haste to assist I neglected to give you the documentation on the GWCheck routine:

http://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise2014r2/gw2014_guide_admin/data/adm_db_disk_space_reduce_user_message.html

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

If you have to go down the Expire/Reduce path you might want to exclude higher management's mailboxes from this by using the Exclude tab:

http://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise2014r2/gw2014_guide_admin/data/adm_db_util_gwcheck.html#abbxj0r

Might save you some heart ache.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
booktrunk1 Absent Member.
Absent Member.

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hello.

So I got it going and I've got users to delete Rubbish and got up to 10gb free.

I've tried on the admin console to free up unused space which is an option on the PO but it doesn't run, there is an error saying it cannot connect to the po 😞

Got a list of the top 20 users and a colleague will be pestering them, hoping to remove 25gb which will probably free up another 5gb 😉

Long term the server is 7 years old so I am going to buy a VM Cluster and stick it all on that 🙂 but I'm trying to keep enough space for it to keep going so I don't have to buy larger disks to keep it limping along til it's replaced.

Trying to fight the good lets keep Groupwise and not jump to exchange or office365
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

Just remember that with Exchange you will not have single-instance-storage - that bloats the amount of space required for an Exchange installation significantly. Many folk forget/ignore that fact.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
Micro Focus Expert
Micro Focus Expert

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

Hi,

For future reference, to ensure that you do not suffer database corruption by GroupWise trying to run on a system that is out of disk space, you should schedule a disk space maintenance routines.

See here: https://www.novell.com/documentation/groupwise2014r2/gw2014_guide_admin/data/adm_poa_config_maintenance.html#adm_poa_config_maint_disk_space

I tend to set it to stop mail processing at several GBs as that will give me ample time, usually, to address the issue before it turns into a disaster.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Laura Buckley

Views/comments expressed here are entirely my own.
If you find this post helpful, please show your appreciation and click on "Like" below...
0 Likes
Knowledge Partner
Knowledge Partner

Re: Help Groupwise 2014R2 0 space on filessytem

In article <booktrunk.7dvfwn@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Booktrunk
wrote:
> Long term the server is 7 years old so I am going to buy a VM Cluster
> and stick it all on that 🙂 but I'm trying to keep enough space for it
> to keep going so I don't have to buy larger disks to keep it limping
> along til it's replaced.


In addition to what Laura said, a good set of routine automated GWChecks
helps a pile http://www.konecnyad.ca/andyk/gwmnt5x.htm
Sometimes people try to use email as file storage, even for such things
as CD images, so checking out for the biggest messages can help a whole
pile as well http://www.konecnyad.ca/andyk/gwbig.htm


Andy of
http://KonecnyConsulting.ca in Toronto
Knowledge Partner
http://forums.novell.com/member.php/75037-konecnya
If you find a post helpful and are logged in the Web interface, please
show your appreciation by clicking on the star below. Thanks!

___
Andy of Konecny Consulting in Toronto
Knowledge Partner Profile
If you find a post helpful, click the Like button below. Thanks!
0 Likes
The opinions expressed above are the personal opinions of the authors, not of Micro Focus. By using this site, you accept the Terms of Use and Rules of Participation. Certain versions of content ("Material") accessible here may contain branding from Hewlett-Packard Company (now HP Inc.) and Hewlett Packard Enterprise Company. As of September 1, 2017, the Material is now offered by Micro Focus, a separately owned and operated company. Any reference to the HP and Hewlett Packard Enterprise/HPE marks is historical in nature, and the HP and Hewlett Packard Enterprise/HPE marks are the property of their respective owners.