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Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Search as I might, i find no explanation on how to move a GW 6.5 to GW 2012. I have found assistance on moving NW 6.5 to OES 11, but the documentation says only GW 7 & 8 can be migrated. Is there a way? We have only 5 users, but losing the databases would be disastrous.
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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Personally - I would do an in place upgrade to V7 or V8, let it run for a day or two, and then upgrade to 2012. Once on 2012 do the move.

Danita has some brilliant upgrade guides and guides on moving GroupWise systems: Caledonia - Home of the GroupWise Goddess - well worth the few bucks - I don't do an upgrade or move without them 🙂

The above is just my humble opinion.

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

On 11.09.2012 23:26, JackCunha wrote:
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> Search as I might, i find no explanation on how to move a GW 6.5 to GW
> 2012.


The source version doesn't make a single bit of difference really. If
it's 5.5 or 2012, it's always the same routine to migrate.

> I have found assistance on moving NW 6.5 to OES 11, but the
> documentation says only GW 7 & 8 can be migrated.


Where exactly?


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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

On 12.09.2012 09:36, laurabuckley wrote:
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> Personally - I would do an in place upgrade to V7 or V8, let it run for
> a day or two, and then upgrade to 2012. Once on 2012 do the move.


Why? And how exactly do you update to 2012 while still on Netware?

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Sorry - my bad
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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Massimo Rosen wrote:

> > Search as I might, i find no explanation on how to move a GW 6.5 to
> > GW 2012.

>
> The source version doesn't make a single bit of difference really. If
> it's 5.5 or 2012, it's always the same routine to migrate.


True, but the question becomes how much testing have we done going
directly from older versions straight to 2012. Migrating & upgrading
all in one step could be an issue. I'd recommend upgrading in-place to
GW8 first if the source OS is supported, if not, migrate to a new
server & upgrade to GW8. Then do the in-place upgrade to GW2012.

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Joe,

On 12.09.2012 15:18, Joseph Marton wrote:
> Massimo Rosen wrote:
>
>>> Search as I might, i find no explanation on how to move a GW 6.5 to
>>> GW 2012.

>>
>> The source version doesn't make a single bit of difference really. If
>> it's 5.5 or 2012, it's always the same routine to migrate.

>
> True, but the question becomes how much testing have we done going
> directly from older versions straight to 2012.


I hope thousands. Because *every* new Groupwise database up to today
starts it's life in GW5.5 format. E.G, even a totally brandnew GW2012
install begins with.... a database update from 5.5 to 2012. 😉

> Migrating & upgrading
> all in one step could be anissue.


I don't like "coulds" in IT. I have zero reason to believe such issues
exist.


> I'd recommend upgrading in-place to
> GW8 first if the source OS is supported, if not, migrate to a new
> server & upgrade to GW8. Then do the in-place upgrade to GW2012.
>


And I recommend to leave the source system absolutely untouched, just in
case anything fails.

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Massimo Rosen wrote:

> And I recommend to leave the source system absolutely untouched, just
> in case anything fails.


Always a good recommendation. Best bet, then, is to migrate the 6.5
system to a new server and upgrade it to GW8, then do an in-place
upgrade to 2012.

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

The reference to only being able to upgrade from GW 7 or 8 to 2012 referred to using a migration tool. If desired I can find the source. The suggestionn that I upgrade to GW 8 before migrating seems to make sense given the doc I read about using the migration tool only with 7 or 8, but how do I get GW 8? If I cannot obtain 7 or 8 as an interim, the question remains - how do I upgrade from 6.5 to 2012?


UOTE=jmarton;2218953]Massimo Rosen wrote:

> And I recommend to leave the source system absolutely untouched, just
> in case anything fails.


Always a good recommendation. Best bet, then, is to migrate the 6.5
system to a new server and upgrade it to GW8, then do an in-place
upgrade to 2012.

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gleach1 Absent Member.
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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

You can download 8 from the patches section if you have access to it

I once upgraded from 6.5 on netware to 7 on Linux, had to migrate the 6.5 system to the linux box and then upgrade it from there

It's possible that you don't see any reference to 6.5 in the docs as it's long out of extended support

If it was me i'd be upgrading the 6.5 system to 7 if possible or 8, then migrating that to Linux, as 6.5 on Linux was really really bad

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Hi.

On 13.09.2012 03:56, JackCunha wrote:
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> The reference to only being able to upgrade from GW 7 or 8 to 2012
> referred to using a migration tool. If desired I can find the source.


Yes, please. There is no reason why this should be the case.

> The suggestionn that I upgrade to GW 8 before migrating seems to make
> sense given the doc I read


No, because the doc you read doesn't make sense if it really claimed
whatever it does would only work starting with GW7. That's not the case.

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Re: Migrate GW 6.5 to GW 2012

Hi.

On 13.09.2012 07:56, gleach1 wrote:
> If it was me i'd be upgrading the 6.5 system to 7 if possible or 8,
> then migrating that to Linux, as 6.5 on Linux was really really bad


Wow, this is getting out of hand. Who or what is saying that you *ever*
should or need to install or run *the same* version as the source on the
Target? Nobody is saying to install or run GW6.5 on linux. Neither GW7,
not GW8.

Migrating Groupwise from Netware (GW6.5) to Linux (GW2012) basically
involves copying the existing data and then starting *THE CURRENT*
Groupwise version against the copied over *OLD VERSION* data. The Fact
that *new* Groupwise Agents get run against *old* Databases is what
actually does the version update. And there is *no* limit in terms of
the allowed version differences between old data and new agents. There
is totally no reason whatsoever to do that update in multiple Stages,
you can go directly from 5.5 to 2012 if you so wish, and every
additional version step inbetween is just a waste of time and an
additional potential failure action.


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