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Upgrade GW8 To GW14 Questions

I know we are bit late on the upgrade process, but better late than never.

We need upgrade from Netware to Linux. I know there are a book from Caledonia "Upgrade Guide for Groupwise 2014" which I will get soon.

The question I have is we still have old Netware 5.1 servers in our tree because we have some Btrive apps that are still being used. So we still using an old DS version. Can GW14 use LDAP to talk with our Edir? Or am I forced to break the tree in two, one for old Netware 5 and one for everything else?

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Phil J
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Hi Phil J,

PhilJannusch;2344570 wrote:
I know we are bit late on the upgrade process, but better late than never.

We need upgrade from Netware to Linux. I know there are a book from Caledonia "Upgrade Guide for Groupwise 2014" which I will get soon.


That is an invaluable guide to have. Lots of good info and stuff to read up on to make sure the (move & ) upgrade goes as smooth as possible.

PhilJannusch;2344570 wrote:
The question I have is we still have old Netware 5.1 servers in our tree because we have some Btrive apps that are still being used. So we still using an old DS version.

Can GW14 use LDAP to talk with our Edir? Or am I forced to break the tree in two, one for old Netware 5 and one for everything else?


Actually, GroupWise 2014 uses LDAP solely when configuring user authentication to eDirectory or Active Directory (it's much looser than the eDir integration that one has with Gw 2012 and before).

Besides not being supported as LDAP source, I'm not sure how well NetWare 5.1 will work to have GW 2014 authenticate against.
In any case I'd opt to to first have at least two servers running eDir 8.8.x (OES11 SP2, or just SLES11 with eDir installed separately).

Knowing some more about your setup (how many servers/users, what type of services are you running against the NetWare/eDirectory bits, etc) would be good.

Cheers,
Willem
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We have 7 POs (all GW8) all on Netware 6.5, located at 6 different sites over the USA. We also have a few Netware 5.1 servers. We currently have a separate ZCM 11.3 server on linux that uses LDAP to authenticate to our Edir tree. We have around 200 users. The 2email servers here have over 1100 gigs of email.
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PhilJannusch wrote:

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> We have 7 POs (all GW8) all on Netware 6.5, located at 6 different
> sites over the USA. We also have a few Netware 5.1 servers. We
> currently have a separate ZCM 11.3 server on linux that uses LDAP to
> authenticate to our Edir tree. We have around 200 users. The 2email
> servers here have over 1100 gigs of email.


Just point GW2014 to one of tne NW65 servers, or even an OES server if
you have one, for the LDAP source. I don't think having NW51 in the
tree will be an issue but I definitely wouldn't use it as the LDAP
source.

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PhilJannusch wrote:

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> We have 7 POs (all GW8) all on Netware 6.5, located at 6 different
> sites over the USA. We also have a few Netware 5.1 servers. We
> currently have a separate ZCM 11.3 server on linux that uses LDAP to
> authenticate to our Edir tree. We have around 200 users. The 2email
> servers here have over 1100 gigs of email.


Also, as a heads-up, we have a GW2014 "Tech Talk" webinar in a couple
of weeks. One of the things we'll be covering is GW2014 upgrade best
practices. You may want to attend if you can. The registration link,
and complete schedule of all Tech Talks, is available here.

http://www.novell.com/techtalks/

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Thanks for the information. This is what I was hoping for! I am sure I will have more questions later, but I need to get a basic understanding of the new system since I know it is different from Netware based GroupWise.
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Thank you for the info, this will help.

Years ago Novell have a seminar showing you the steps on how to upgrade to GW8. It was great, we had a step by step guide showing us how every step. Do you know if such a thing exists for the upgrade to GW14?

thanks for all your help
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PhilJannusch sounds like they 'said':

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> Thank you for the info, this will help.
>
> Years ago Novell have a seminar showing you the steps on how to
> upgrade to GW8. It was great, we had a step by step guide showing us
> how every step. Do you know if such a thing exists for the upgrade
> to GW14?
>
> thanks for all your help
> Phil J


So my response to PhilJannusch's comment is...

Danita at Caledonia has a great Groupwise upgrade guide, highly
recommended. I believe there is also a guide by Caledonia for moving
Groupwise from Netware to SLES.

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PhilJannusch wrote:

> Years ago Novell have a seminar showing you the steps on how to
> upgrade to GW8. It was great, we had a step by step guide showing us
> how every step. Do you know if such a thing exists for the upgrade
> to GW14?


There's an online ATT course which does this, "Moving to Novell
GroupWise 2014 (Course 8726)."

https://www.novell.com/TrainingReg/amer#Novell%20GroupWise

Here are the details on the course.

This course includes content related to the newest version of
GroupWise: GroupWise 2014 (code named Windermere). The course focuses
on the new architecture, administrative tools, and features of
GroupWise 2014, and on upgrade strategies for existing GroupWise
customers. When finished with the course, students will be able to use
the new administrative tools, use the new client, and have a strategy
for upgrading their existing GroupWise system. Students taking the
course should be experienced GroupWise administrators.

This course is designed with the experienced GroupWise administrator in
mind. Students should have a good understanding of GroupWise terms and
concepts such as Domains, Post Offices, Agents, GWIA, and others.
Students should be familiar with directory database systems such as
eDirectory. LDAP familiarity is recommended.

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