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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a policy

Geoffrey Carman wrote:

> And you get that "Oh crap" moment when you realze you have just done it.
>
> Then I compare, snag the diffs into a text file, close without saving the
> second tab, save the first, then go redo the changes.
>
> Hate when that happens.


Seems like you over-compensate a little. Just did the following:

- open two different policies in the same project in two tabs
- edit both tabs so both get dirty
- save tab 1
- switch to tab 2
- get prompted to ignore or load other tab's changes, choose ignore.
- save tab 2
- close both tabs
- reopen both policies again
- both changes are still there, no data loss whatsever

Then did the same again, just hit the save-all icon (or Ctrl-Shift-S) as step
3. Same result: both changes are saved

Then did the same as above, just chose "load" instead of "ignore": all changes
in tab 2 are immediately lost.

Then

- opened two tabs in the same project and
- from their outlines, edited a single driver's properties twice independently
(typed "x" and "y" in driver comment field).
- saved tab 1 ("x")
- switched to tab 2
- chose "ignore"
- saved tab 2 ("y").
- Closed both tabs,
- opened driver properties again, which now has a comment "y".

So you only loose data if you

a) ever choose "load changes" or
b) edit the same object in two open tabs (first edit gets overwritten by
second, last save wins)

Not so bad after all, but the "load changes" option looks too harmless and
inviting, it's consequences should be better explained, imho.

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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a policy

On 3/29/2019 4:54 PM, dgersic wrote:
>
> lhaeger;2497524 Wrote:
>> dgersic wrote:
>>
>>> Each tab, if "dirty", must be saved before
>>> any other tab gets "dirty", otherwise you're going to lose some (or
>>> both) changes, and the results are unpredictable.

>>
>> Only if you edit the same object in both tabs. The last save wins in
>> that case,
>> so it's not entirely unpredictable, just annoying and not very obvious.
>> If you
>> edit different objects in both tabs, one will not see the change made in
>> the
>> other until you close and reopen.
>>
>> I find the message box most confusing that informs about changes saved
>> in first
>> tab when you switch to the next "dirty" one and asks if you want to
>> "reload" or
>> "ignore". If you hit "reload" unsaved changes in this tab are lost, so
>> always
>> hit "ignore", then save the tab and close/reopen to also see the changes
>> saved
>> in the first tab.
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>
> From what I recall, and it's been a while, your choices there are:
>
> "Reload" - discards the changes in this tab and reloads the in-memory
> image of the project. So you lose what you were doing in this tab.
>
> "Ignore" - ignores the changes on disk, so that when you save this tab,
> you lose what you were doing in the *other* tab.


That seems to be my recollection as well.


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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a polic

6423241;2497461 wrote:
Geoffrey Carman,

>>
>> I am not even sure how to describe this, but here it goes.Â* I will open
>> designer and infront of me I will have the drivers on the right and the
>> list view on the left.Â* I will pick a driver to work on example ABC
>> driver, then on the left side I will pick the fishbone outline, all is
>> good at this point. Then I will pick a policy from the event transform
>> to open, then when it opens the driver in the fishbone will change to
>> the last driver that was opened.Â* So you are working on the correct
>> policy on the right but on the left a different driver with different
>> policies.Â* I have tried to open more policies and do saves the the
>> driver on the left always changes.

>
> This was a new bug in 4.7 and I have not seen repeating in 4.7.2 so
> might consider updating.
>


A new bug? I see the same behavior in Designer 4.6.2 and I could swear
it was in the previous version (4.5.5?) too. I've learned to just grit
my teeth and change it back every time it switches on me.


I believe, that I also saw this bug in different versions of Designer.
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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a polic

Hi,

This was a bug in Designer 4.7 and got resolved in 4.7.1. Please consider upgrading the designer to latest 4.7.2. Please find the bug below for reference.

https://bugzilla.netiq.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1066547

Thanks and Regards,
Sandeep Kumar
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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a policy

Driver Girl wrote:

> Any help would be appreciated.


I've seen this for a long time but in my current Designer 4.7.2 it dies not
happen anymore. So like Geoffrey said: if you're on an earlier patchlevel it
may be worth updating.

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Re: Designer 4.7 Changes drivers in view when I open a policy

On 3/28/2019 5:40 AM, Lothar Haeger wrote:
> Driver Girl wrote:
>
>> Any help would be appreciated.

>
> I've seen this for a long time but in my current Designer 4.7.2 it dies not
> happen anymore. So like Geoffrey said: if you're on an earlier patchlevel it
> may be worth updating.


The different Outline views issue is of course still there for reasons I
explained in a different post. Each tab has its own copy of the entire
project so each tabs view of Outline can differ.

But this specific one does seem better in the latest builds.

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