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Microsoft Edge browser?


Has anyone tried using the new Microsoft Edge browser in Windows 10 with
IDM 4.5 User App? I know the docs list IE 11 as the only supported
browser but that was before Edge was really released. I do not have an
immediate need for Microsoft Edge but curious for planning purposes if
it works, if it is supported or what the expectations are for support of
this browser.

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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?


With 4.5 the browser support was changed to "or later" for all browsers
so I expect edge to be supported on 4.5


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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?

On 2/17/2016 3:14 PM, joakim ganse wrote:
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> With 4.5 the browser support was changed to "or later" for all browsers
> so I expect edge to be supported on 4.5
>
>


Since EDGE comes from a different product line/branding, I doubt it is
covered on the support. I'd reach out to NTS or PM to get an official
answer on it and time frames.

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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?

Fernando Freitas wrote:

> On 2/17/2016 3:14 PM, joakim ganse wrote:
> >
> > With 4.5 the browser support was changed to "or later" for all
> > browsers so I expect edge to be supported on 4.5
> >
> >

>
> Since EDGE comes from a different product line/branding, I doubt it
> is covered on the support. I'd reach out to NTS or PM to get an
> official answer on it and time frames.


Fernando is correct.

Despite originating as a fork of Internet Explorer's rendering engine,
one should not assume that it is a continuation of Internet Explorer
and thus supported under that statement.

Edge's default layout engine is designed to be fully compatible with
Webkit (basis for Chrome, Safari and Opera). Unlike Internet Explorer,
the design intent of Edge is to maintain continual compatibility with
the latest standards.

In theory, this should mean that support for latest Chrome will mean
that Edge should be easier for MicroFocus to verify/certify - this
certification hasn't come yet (and I have no idea if/when MF is
planning on certifying Edge)
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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?

On 02/17/2016 03:14 PM, joakim ganse wrote:
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> With 4.5 the browser support was changed to "or later" for all browsers
> so I expect edge to be supported on 4.5


That's optimistic at best. "or later", in every case I've seen, means
within a certain product, and where Edge is not the same as IE it does not
apply.

If it were your way, IE 6 or later would mean Firefox 1.0 was supported. 😉

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I get your point but your are stretching it a little bit 😉

IE 11 and IE EDGE are both products from the same company and even the
same brand while Firefox is a diffrent brand from another organization.

But ok, EDGE migt be a new major version and then it is not supported,
while if it was IE12 it would have been.

The next question is more intresting, will it work? I have not tried it
in any extention yet. It probably will work, at least as good as the
others.
In my experience they all behave diffrently and none of them are really
working. I am torn between FF and Chrome to whitch one is the suggested
one of the day.

I could only find one reference in the documentation, and that was
actuallyregarding installation, to supported browsers and what (at a
minimum) actually means is up for debate.: http://tinyurl.com/kjjhjf9

Desktop Computer (at a minimum):

Apple Safari 5.1.7 for Windows
Safari 7.0.1
Google Chrome 37
Microsoft Internet Explorer 11
Mozilla Firefox 32


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On 02/18/2016 05:35 AM, joakim ganse wrote:
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> I get your point but your are stretching it a little bit 😉


Yes, but so are you in the next paragraph.

> IE 11 and IE EDGE are both products from the same company and even the
> same brand while Firefox is a diffrent brand from another organization.


There is no "IE Edge". IE is dead, completely, totally, finally.

Edge is a new browser. Ignore its past, the marketing name makes it clear
it is a new browser. The product name is 'Microsoft Edge', so it is as
close to 'Microsoft Internet Explorer" as 'Microsoft Project' or
'Microsoft Flight Simulator', i.e., not made to be close at all. Sure,
they're from the same vendor, but so was a joystick (hardware, not software).

> But ok, EDGE migt be a new major version and then it is not supported,
> while if it was IE12 it would have been.


It's not a new major version, it's a new product. IE 12 would be a new
major version, and probably another failure, but with Edge they're finally
catching on and trying to follow standards. As a result, it gets the same
support stance as something like Opera, except that since it's so new it
is more-likely never to have been used than even something like Opera,
Konqueror, or another less-prolific browser.

> The next question is more intresting, will it work? I have not tried it
> in any extention yet. It probably will work, at least as good as the
> others.
> In my experience they all behave diffrently and none of them are really
> working. I am torn between FF and Chrome to whitch one is the suggested
> one of the day.


Yes, this is where the rubber meets the road, as long as you do not need
support. Since the UserApp's history with browser functionality (not to
mention support) is pretty sad, I would not count on it. The only reason
it might work is because Edge is supposed to work based on standards, and
so long as a browser implements them things should just work. Should....
but still not supported.

> I could only find one reference in the documentation, and that was
> actuallyregarding installation, to supported browsers and what (at a
> minimum) actually means is up for debate.: http://tinyurl.com/kjjhjf9
>
> Desktop Computer (at a minimum):
>
> Apple Safari 5.1.7 for Windows
> Safari 7.0.1
> Google Chrome 37
> Microsoft Internet Explorer 11
> Mozilla Firefox 32


Yup, no Edge. I'd avoid it in production unless you are okay with
explaining to your management that some things will not work after users
start complaining about quirks here and there.

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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?

> There is no "IE Edge". IE is dead, completely, totally, finally.
>
> Edge is a new browser. Ignore its past, the marketing name makes it clear
> it is a new browser. The product name is 'Microsoft Edge', so it is as
> close to 'Microsoft Internet Explorer" as 'Microsoft Project' or
> 'Microsoft Flight Simulator', i.e., not made to be close at all. Sure,
> they're from the same vendor, but so was a joystick (hardware, not software).


Excuse my ignorance, but where does one get Edge vs IE these days?

Can you have both browsers on one Windows install? Does Edge replace
the IE install?
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Re: Microsoft Edge browser?

On 02/18/2016 11:29 AM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
>> There is no "IE Edge". IE is dead, completely, totally, finally.
>>
>> Edge is a new browser. Ignore its past, the marketing name makes it clear
>> it is a new browser. The product name is 'Microsoft Edge', so it is as
>> close to 'Microsoft Internet Explorer" as 'Microsoft Project' or
>> 'Microsoft Flight Simulator', i.e., not made to be close at all. Sure,
>> they're from the same vendor, but so was a joystick (hardware, not
>> software).

>
> Excuse my ignorance, but where does one get Edge vs IE these days?


It comes from microsoft. 😉 If you ask a thread-drifting question,
expect an unhelpful answer.

> Can you have both browsers on one Windows install? Does Edge replace the
> IE install?


It's only supported on windows 10, so it's only for those stuck in that
situation.

I think you can have both at the same time, yes, but you are not prevented
from installing a better browser at the same time too, so no worries.

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ab <ab@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
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> I think you can have both at the same time, yes, but you are not prevented
> from installing a better browser at the same time too, so no worries.
>


edge is default browser on win10. Ie11 is there too and you can easily make
it the default. Can of course instal your favourite non Microsoft browser
also.

Edge on the shipping 10 is buggy and has actually stopped working entirely
for me.
The latest build from ms fixes that, but it is not yet forcibly pushed to
corporate users of 10.

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