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SAP Business One integration


Hi,

Can we use the IDM SAP UM Driver for user management on SAP Business
One?

Regards
Jose Luis


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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 12:56 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can we use the IDM SAP UM Driver for user management on SAP Business
> One?


Can you ask your SAP people if it is an ABAP User Store that it relies on?

I mention that since the Business Object integrations (SAP bought the
company that used to be Crystal Reports) is a strange integration.

There IS a module that uses ABAP. But there is also a web module that
you point at: 1) ABAP User Store, 2) Portal instance, 3) LDAP User Store.

Maybe reading the configuration from the SAP doc side might help?

(I personally have never heard of SAP Business One, but that means next
to nothing since SAP is so big, and widespread and change so often, who
can keep track!)


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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 12:58 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
> On 6/24/2014 12:56 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can we use the IDM SAP UM Driver for user management on SAP Business
>> One?

>
> Can you ask your SAP people if it is an ABAP User Store that it relies on?
>
> I mention that since the Business Object integrations (SAP bought the
> company that used to be Crystal Reports) is a strange integration.
>
> There IS a module that uses ABAP. But there is also a web module that
> you point at: 1) ABAP User Store, 2) Portal instance, 3) LDAP User Store.
>
> Maybe reading the configuration from the SAP doc side might help?
>
> (I personally have never heard of SAP Business One, but that means next
> to nothing since SAP is so big, and widespread and change so often, who
> can keep track!)


Hmm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_Business_One

So this is a purchased product by SAP.

The more I read, the more I think the answer is very likely no. I
cannot imagine even SAP would be daft enough to backport ABAP and BAPI
into an acquired app.

It does look like there MIGHT be a SOAP API:

Integration can be achieved using the SDK component DI API, DI API
Server and UIAPI. The DI API provides COM based interface to the
business objects & business logic of SAP Business One. The DI API Server
is similar to DI API except it provides SOAP based protocol.UIAPI, which
based on COM too, focus on SAP Business One User Interface.

If so, my company has a neato completo SOAP driver package that allows
easy integration with SOAP endpoints.

Please report back on what you find, since I am very curious as to the
answer.

This part surprised me:
At last recorded count, SAP has 88,000 SME's worldwide using B1, which
represents 70% of their user base. If we calculate backwards, the
remaining 30% of enterprise users will count as 45,000. It is unclear
whether this includes clients from newly procured companies such as Sybase.



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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 1:04 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
> On 6/24/2014 12:58 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
>> On 6/24/2014 12:56 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Can we use the IDM SAP UM Driver for user management on SAP Business
>>> One?

>>
>> Can you ask your SAP people if it is an ABAP User Store that it relies
>> on?
>>
>> I mention that since the Business Object integrations (SAP bought the
>> company that used to be Crystal Reports) is a strange integration.
>>
>> There IS a module that uses ABAP. But there is also a web module that
>> you point at: 1) ABAP User Store, 2) Portal instance, 3) LDAP User Store.
>>
>> Maybe reading the configuration from the SAP doc side might help?
>>
>> (I personally have never heard of SAP Business One, but that means next
>> to nothing since SAP is so big, and widespread and change so often, who
>> can keep track!)

>
> Hmm:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_Business_One
>
> So this is a purchased product by SAP.
>
> The more I read, the more I think the answer is very likely no. I
> cannot imagine even SAP would be daft enough to backport ABAP and BAPI
> into an acquired app.
>
> It does look like there MIGHT be a SOAP API:
>
> Integration can be achieved using the SDK component DI API, DI API
> Server and UIAPI. The DI API provides COM based interface to the
> business objects & business logic of SAP Business One. The DI API Server
> is similar to DI API except it provides SOAP based protocol.UIAPI, which
> based on COM too, focus on SAP Business One User Interface.
>
> If so, my company has a neato completo SOAP driver package that allows
> easy integration with SOAP endpoints.
>
> Please report back on what you find, since I am very curious as to the
> answer.
>
> This part surprised me:
> At last recorded count, SAP has 88,000 SME's worldwide using B1, which
> represents 70% of their user base. If we calculate backwards, the
> remaining 30% of enterprise users will count as 45,000. It is unclear
> whether this includes clients from newly procured companies such as Sybase.


Asking some SAP dudes I know as well... I am now very curious. I tried
finding the WSDL for this on the SDN. How does anyone sane find
anything on the SAP Dev Network? I know I have been hard on folk at
netIQ/Novell at times for Docs/dev site, but then I go to MS or SAP's
and I weep at the horror of it all. 🙂



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Re: SAP Business One integration


Thanks for your answer Geoffc.
Next Thursday I'll have a meeting with the customer and I'll try to find
out more information about how SAP B1 manages users and SOAP integration
options.
Regards


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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 3:54 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
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> Thanks for your answer Geoffc.
> Next Thursday I'll have a meeting with the customer and I'll try to find
> out more information about how SAP B1 manages users and SOAP integration
> options.


If it is SOAP, snag a copy of the WSDL and send it to me, I would love
to look at it. My boss has a config he calls LiQuiD SOAP with which it
is very straightforward to handle a WSDL in a SOAP driver. I can whip
up a test package pretty fast with it, to try.

We have a bunch of configs packaged this way. Cisco Call Manager,
Papercut print accounting (Over XML-RPC even!), Workday. Can do Vibe
basic stuff. Would love to add another config to the stable of stuff I
have ready.


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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 3:58 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
> On 6/24/2014 3:54 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your answer Geoffc.
>> Next Thursday I'll have a meeting with the customer and I'll try to find
>> out more information about how SAP B1 manages users and SOAP integration
>> options.

>
> If it is SOAP, snag a copy of the WSDL and send it to me, I would love
> to look at it. My boss has a config he calls LiQuiD SOAP with which it
> is very straightforward to handle a WSDL in a SOAP driver. I can whip
> up a test package pretty fast with it, to try.
>
> We have a bunch of configs packaged this way. Cisco Call Manager,
> Papercut print accounting (Over XML-RPC even!), Workday. Can do Vibe
> basic stuff. Would love to add another config to the stable of stuff I
> have ready.


If you are an educational institution, I will be presenting how this
config works at the TTP conference in Provo, UT mid-July.

I may do a session of my IDM-UG on it as well at some point.

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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/24/2014 3:54 PM, jlrodriguez wrote:
>
> Thanks for your answer Geoffc.
> Next Thursday I'll have a meeting with the customer and I'll try to find
> out more information about how SAP B1 manages users and SOAP integration
> options.


The SAP people I know generically say that they do not use B1. So they
do not know. One who I do not trust said, since it is an ERP it must
have ABAP and probably Java stack. I do not trust that response.

Sorry, no news here.


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Re: SAP Business One integration


Hi,

I'm sorry but I couldn't get much information as the customer is still
evaluating what ERP solution to deploy. He wants to be sure that the
solution they select is easily integrated with IDM.

Thanks for your comments Geoffc.


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Re: SAP Business One integration

On 6/27/2014 8:34 AM, jlrodriguez wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry but I couldn't get much information as the customer is still
> evaluating what ERP solution to deploy. He wants to be sure that the
> solution they select is easily integrated with IDM.


I think you may need to find an SAP sales critter and pursue it through
them. Maybe work with the customer to talk to SAP about it?

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