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SCIM Implementation

Hi all,

anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
looks very promising.
The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.

thx,

Thorsten
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On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
> looks very promising.
> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>
> thx,
>
> Thorsten
>

No one?
Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
driver-development on this?
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On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
>> looks very promising.
>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>>
>> thx,
>>
>> Thorsten
>>

> No one?
> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
> driver-development on this?


Got a WSDL for it handy?

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On 11/08/2013 01:56 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
> On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
>>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
>>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
>>> looks very promising.
>>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>>>
>>> thx,
>>>
>>> Thorsten
>>>

>> No one?
>> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
>> driver-development on this?

>
> Got a WSDL for it handy?
>

well, everything is under http://www.simplecloud.info/#specifications

Draft Status (for SCIM 2, SCIM 1.1 is already )
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/

The only WSDL I found is the one from WS0":
https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/carbon/platform/trunk/service-stubs/org.wso2.carbon.identity.scim.common.stub/
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On 11/8/2013 9:20 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> On 11/08/2013 01:56 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
>> On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
>>>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
>>>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
>>>> looks very promising.
>>>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>>>>
>>>> thx,
>>>>
>>>> Thorsten
>>>>
>>> No one?
>>> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
>>> driver-development on this?

>>
>> Got a WSDL for it handy?
>>

> well, everything is under http://www.simplecloud.info/#specifications
>
> Draft Status (for SCIM 2, SCIM 1.1 is already )
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/
>
> The only WSDL I found is the one from WS0":
> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/carbon/platform/trunk/service-stubs/org.wso2.carbon.identity.scim.common.stub/


Ah, REST API. So right now, out of the box, the SOAP driver CANNOT do
this.

Two reasons:
1) They are doing REST with JSON and the SOAP driver needs XML
inbound/outbound. You would need a ByteModifierArray extension to
convert XML to JSON. Which I have mostly working.

2) They have API calls or responses that are 'empty' of content or payload.

That is, the URL you GET/POST/PUT/etc, is done with no JSON payload.
The SOAP driver will strip that event.

So my ByteArrayModifier extension looks for am <empty/> node and
converts that to 'nothing' and on response, takes 'nothing' and converts
it to <empty/>

I did not read very far (Sorry, busy, not yet committed to this), but
could you find a sample endpoint to test with?





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On 11/8/2013 9:20 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> On 11/08/2013 01:56 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
>> On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
>>>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less standardized
>>>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this initiative
>>>> looks very promising.
>>>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>>>>
>>>> thx,
>>>>
>>>> Thorsten
>>>>
>>> No one?
>>> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
>>> driver-development on this?

>>
>> Got a WSDL for it handy?
>>

> well, everything is under http://www.simplecloud.info/#specifications
>
> Draft Status (for SCIM 2, SCIM 1.1 is already )
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/
>
> The only WSDL I found is the one from WS0":
> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/carbon/platform/trunk/service-stubs/org.wso2.carbon.identity.scim.common.stub/


Also, is your desire to make IDM respond to the SCIM standard? or allow
IDM to push events into someone elses SCIM instance?

Two different issues. The second one is easier for me. I need to think
about the first one.

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Time for NetIQ to think about this seriously, when these days many cloud
directories are capable of SCIM, but NetIQ is not. I would guess
creating SCIM client(driver) on NETIQ idm platform would be an easy
shot*here, but doing NetIQ IDM being as SCIM receiver is hard part where
we should rely on NetIQ IDM functionality. I hope Userapp/IDM Home
bring this up or eDirectory could be second possible hit to support SCIM
in addition to REST, LDAP, and etc. 🙂

NetiQ are you there listening to customers? 🙂


geoffc;236697 Wrote:
> On 11/8/2013 9:20 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> > On 11/08/2013 01:56 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> >>> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM

> http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
> >>>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less

> standardized
> >>>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this

> initiative
> >>>> looks very promising.
> >>>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>> thx,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thorsten
> >>>>
> >>> No one?
> >>> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
> >>> driver-development on this?
> >>
> >> Got a WSDL for it handy?
> >>

> > well, everything is under http://www.simplecloud.info/#specifications
> >
> > Draft Status (for SCIM 2, SCIM 1.1 is already )
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/
> >
> > The only WSDL I found is the one from WS0":
> > http://tinyurl.com/hfv3wfk

>
> Also, is your desire to make IDM respond to the SCIM standard? or
> allow
> IDM to push events into someone elses SCIM instance?
>
> Two different issues. The second one is easier for me. I need to
> think
> about the first one.



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On 12/27/2015 2:56 PM, maqsood wrote:
>
> Time for NetIQ to think about this seriously, when these days many cloud
> directories are capable of SCIM, but NetIQ is not. I would guess
> creating SCIM client(driver) on NETIQ idm platform would be an easy
> shot*here, but doing NetIQ IDM being as SCIM receiver is hard part where
> we should rely on NetIQ IDM functionality. I hope Userapp/IDM Home
> bring this up or eDirectory could be second possible hit to support SCIM
> in addition to REST, LDAP, and etc. 🙂


I was doing this for fun, I did not have a customer who needed it. I
did not have a target/source to work with to make sure it worked.


> NetiQ are you there listening to customers? 🙂


They are not really listening here, alas.

I went and looked back at my notes from this. I did not get very far.
Should be easy to do with the REST driver, since SCIM 2.0 is REST based
I think.


>
> geoffc;236697 Wrote:
>> On 11/8/2013 9:20 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>> On 11/08/2013 01:56 PM, Geoffrey Carman wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/2013 7:43 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>>>> On 11/06/2013 09:26 AM, Thorsten Niebuhr wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone here who has experience with SCIM

>> http://www.simplecloud.info/)?
>>>>>> I am searching for the best way to provide a more or less

>> standardized
>>>>>> way of accessing and connecting to an IDM System, and this

>> initiative
>>>>>> looks very promising.
>>>>>> The SOAP Driver should generally be able to do that, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thx,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thorsten
>>>>>>
>>>>> No one?
>>>>> Anyone interested in taking part in a kind of 'open-source'
>>>>> driver-development on this?
>>>>
>>>> Got a WSDL for it handy?
>>>>
>>> well, everything is under http://www.simplecloud.info/#specifications
>>>
>>> Draft Status (for SCIM 2, SCIM 1.1 is already )
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/
>>>
>>> The only WSDL I found is the one from WS0":
>>> http://tinyurl.com/hfv3wfk

>>
>> Also, is your desire to make IDM respond to the SCIM standard? or
>> allow
>> IDM to push events into someone elses SCIM instance?
>>
>> Two different issues. The second one is easier for me. I need to
>> think
>> about the first one.

>
>


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