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Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about process

I'm working an upgrade/migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 and need to get clarification on a couple of points of the information/process in the Admin Guide.

I am upgrading and migrating from one environment (Windows 2008 Server & Oracle 9 database) to a new one (Windows 2012 & Oracle 12c)

Looking at the information on page 200 of the Admin Guide it states "Prior to running ALM Robot, if you are using a new database server, you must back up the schema on the original database server and restore it manually to the target database server" and "Prior to running ALM Robot, make sure that the project schema exists on your target database". 

Do I really need to do this?  I have a new schema (and dummy project) on the Oracle 12c system that was created as part of the install of ALM on the new environment.  I am not upgrading in place, this is a totally new environment the project is being migrated to.  I plan to use ALM Robot to do the upgrade/migration.  Any additional insights/hints please let me know.

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Hi Jim,

Our subject matter expert for upgrade will advise soon. I am not familiar with ALM aspect so I'd better not confuse you.

I am curious why do you upgrade to 12.53 and not to 12.55? 12.55 is the latest full install on top of which you can deploy 12.56 using a patch installer.

BTW, 12.57 will be released soon. It is also a patch installation that can be deployed on top of 12.56

Regards,

Shlomi

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Hello Jim ,

You'll have to backup and restore (export / import for Oracle) the schemas on teh new DB server as the ALM Robot does not deal with DB schemas backup/restore or copy between servers.

As for addirional insights hints / insights , I can share the relevant ones once I'll hove more details of your current PC environment and your upgrade plan. (amount of projects , side by side etc..).

I suggest that you'll email me aliza.salomon@microfocus.com and we'll take it from there.

Adding my recommedations to Shlomi's suggestion:

Having already PC12.56 for several months and coming PC12.57 soon , I would recommend to consider upgrade from 12.20 to PC12.56 or 12.57.

for PC12.56 you'll have to:

  1. Install ALM12.55 patch01 and upgrade your projects from 12.20 to 12.55 patch01
  2. Install PC12.55 (SERVER , Hosts and stand alones)
  3. Install PC2.56 (LR.12.56 for stand alones) on top of 12..55

for PC12.57 you'll have to:

  1. Install ALM12.55 patch02 and upgrade your projects from 12.20 to 12.55 patch02
  2. Install PC12.55 (SERVER , Hosts and stand alones)
  3. Install PC2.57 (LR.12.57 for stand alones) on top of 12..55

 

Hope it helps

Aliza

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Shlomi,

It is company policy here to stay 1 release behind, due to stability concerns with the latest release of the tool.  Also, I started this whole affair last fall (2017) when PC 12.55 had been released and 12.53 was 1 behind. 

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Aliza,

As I stated to Shlomi, the company I work for has a policy to stay 1 release behind due to stability concerns.  For me to now go back and request another version upgrade would put the project into chaos. 

I'll contact you privately via email.

Regards,

Jim

 

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Hi,

 

@Jim, while I understand your concerns, I think your approach is not solving it. 

Let's coordinate a meeting to fast forward your adoption of this version. 

@Aliza, please include me in your meeting with JIm.

Regards,

Shlomi

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Shlomi & Aliza,

I work for a major company (subsidiary of a bigger corporation) and this is company policy.  I've already spent about 7 months trying to get this upgrade done.  Had to deal with a lot of headaches within here, and with the transition to MicroFocus from HPE.  I do not have authorization at this time from my superiors to push up the version of software, and as I said it would throw this whole thing into chaos if I try.  I tried to go to 12.55 last fall and got shot down hard.  So no wiggle room there, sorry.

Any help from you to get this upgrade/migration done is appreciated. My next big step is getting the projects/data moved, after that it is some minor configuration items and I'm done.  If I didn't have to deal with the red tape and other B.S. I would have been done last January.

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

We will assist you.

Please follow-up with Aliza and I will sync with her

Regards,

Shlomi

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

hi Shlomi Nissim

i have a doubt , am working with hpalm 12.20 in windows 2008 server , my management want to move it to windows 2012 R2 server , my question is can we migrate ALM from 2008 server to 2012 R2 server or we need to newly install the application in 2012 server. please reply me .

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

Hi, 

If you remain with same ALM server and upgrade its OS to 2012 - no need to install ALM. 

If you have new server , you'll need to install ALM and configure it using the connect to existing site admin schema with all other settings that you;ve provided before. If the repository is locate on the ALM server you should also copy it to the same location (path) in the new ALM server

Aliza

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

thanks for the information,

we are currently running in windows 2008 server , my company closing all old server , so i need to move to 2012R2 server ,so my question is from 2008 can i migrate to 2012 R2 server , which i newly built .

please give me ur email to discuss .

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Re: Upgrade/Migration of Performance Center 12.20 to Performance Center 12.53 - Questions about proc

In addition in case you plan to upgrade to 12.53 - let me suggest to consider one of the latest versions - PC12.63 which works with ALM12.60 Patch02  or LRE2020 which is standalone and installed without ALM.

If you install 12.53 or 12.60 on the new ALM server , no need to have therie previous 12.20, Install the new version using the upgrade a copy of Site admin schema as you;ll need to upgrade your 12.20 to 12.53 or 12.63 .

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