Provide a proper cross-platform NCP client for Mac and Linux.

Idea ID 2783550

Provide a proper cross-platform NCP client for Mac and Linux.

Mac users increasingly expect feature parity with Windows users.

I suggest that now is a good time to build an NCP client for the Mac again to include features such as login script processing, salvage etc. This could be easily ported from the current Novell Client for Linux (NCL) and the NCL could be updated to work for a wider range of Linux distributions.

Without this, Microfocus' cross-plaform story is sadly incomplete.
16 Comments
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
agree 100%. I do see MAC base is increasing and not supported well. Kan-aka engine maintenance need to be avoided or too many issues for an average admin. NCP is the way forward.
Frequent Contributor.
Frequent Contributor.
This would make our lives so much easier. Installing Kanaka servers just to handle Novell logins for our rapidly growing Mac population is an extra management burden that I just don't want to have to deal with.
New Member.
...and, of course, Kanaka isn't actually a client - it's just a shim that enhances CIFS to workaround the lack of the kind of features we would expect from a proper client. It's still buying into the story that CIFS is good enough.
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
Our Mac base has been increasing steadily over the years too. However, what I would personally benefit from is a fully supported Linux client. Most of the servers I am responsible for run on OES Linux. It makes sense therefore to use a workstation equivalent O/S to manage them. Being able to use JRButils in a Bash environment makes my job a lot easier and has other benefits too.
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
NCP is one of the "Crown Jewels" that Microfocus acquired in the Attachmate/Novell merger (along with items like FLAIM, NSS, eDirectory, etc.). It is a sophisticated, proprietary technology that Microfocus controls and can improve at-will. On July 14th at noon, I will give a presentation at the TTP Provo conference (in the Building H conference rooms) entitled "NCP: Now and Forever" making this case. However, for purposes of this "idea" I will limit myself to pointing out that NCP does a lot more than file sharing, and the basis for providing any functionality at all via NCP is to have a set of clients that can intelligently send and receive NCP packets. Having a rich OS X client is necessary to fully utilize NCP as a differentiating technology on the server side, and it can provide a host of functionality to the OS X client. It does not need to necessarily be a full login-and-map drive client, but it does need to provide both a GUI element and command-line utilities. I strongly vote "yes" on this submission.
Visitor.
One of the biggest issues is remote use and firewalls. I'd support this more if the proposition included tunneling 524(NCP, 427(SLP) and 636(SLDAP) over HTTPS into the Novell Client.
New Member.
Since you mention the firewall issue, let me confess to what I would really like: For the Filr client and the NCP client either co-operate or even become the same thing so that they work something like this: 1) If the workstation is online and can see the server directly over NCP then use NCP and provide all the (salvage, file-locking etc.) bells and whistles directly. 2) If the workstation is online and can see the server over https (Filr) then use that. 3) If the workstation is offline use https (filr) sync. However, a couple of other things need to be improved to make that vision workable: a) Login scripts and Net / Home Folders need to be unified somehow so that things look the same whichever way you connect. b) Filr filtered sync needs to intelligently work out which network files you’re likely to need locally (eg. files opened within the last 3 months).
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
Also, PLEASE do not write this in Java. It will be tempting to do so since Microfocus has a lot of Java programmers, and even some NCP client code already written in Java. However, our experience has been that Java applications in general and specifically those written by Novell / Microfocus continue to act in ways alien to OS X.
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
MAC Client all the way!!
Absent Member.
Absent Member.
absoloutely, agree 100%.
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