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4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

There are probably bugs in other language versions
of Client 4.91SP1:

Client 4.91SP1 english + WinXPSP2 english:
(1) "Did you forget your password?" is displayed fine in Login window
(2) location profiles work fine (predefined usernames are set etc.)

Client 4.91SP1 german + WinXPSP2 german:
(1) "Did you forget your password?" (or corresponding in german)
is NOT displayed in Login window
(2) location profiles DO NOT work:
It is not possible to define location profiles with predefined username.
("Save profile after successful login" is unchecked.)
The settings for TREE, CONTEXT etc. are set fine.
But always the last logged in username is displayed,
not the predefined!

Any hints or solutions particularly with regard to (2)?
TIA
Hans-Dieter
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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

Did you see the new loginw32.rll, which is in beta now? It definitely
solves problem (1). For problem (2) I have no experience as I always
blank the login screen.

W. Prindl

Hans-Dieter Eckardt wrote:

> There are probably bugs in other language versions
> of Client 4.91SP1:
>
> Client 4.91SP1 english + WinXPSP2 english:
> (1) "Did you forget your password?" is displayed fine in Login window
> (2) location profiles work fine (predefined usernames are set etc.)
>
> Client 4.91SP1 german + WinXPSP2 german:
> (1) "Did you forget your password?" (or corresponding in german)
> is NOT displayed in Login window
> (2) location profiles DO NOT work:
> It is not possible to define location profiles with predefined
> username. ("Save profile after successful login" is unchecked.)
> The settings for TREE, CONTEXT etc. are set fine.
> But always the last logged in username is displayed,
> not the predefined!
>
> Any hints or solutions particularly with regard to (2)?
> TIA
> Hans-Dieter

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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

W. Prindl wrote:
> Did you see the new loginw32.rll, which is in beta now? It definitely
> solves problem (1).


Yes, i have tested it, it solves problem (1),
but not (2).

Thanks for your answer.
Hans-Dieter
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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

For what it's worth, 4.91 SP1 German on XP Professional SP2 German
works as I expect with regard to point (2). (It did indeed show
problem (1) until the .RLLs that were just posted.)

So that makes me wonder whether we're just talking about a
configuration or process difference between the two machines, and not
specifically the fact that one is German and one is English.

With "Save profile after successful login" unchecked, the only other
scenario in which I expect to see "the last logged-in user always
shows up" is if the Novell login dialog is in "Workstation Only" mode.
(Since "Workstation Only" always bypasses the Location Profile and
displays the last Windows user to login from the DefaultUserName value
under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon].)

If the login dialog is definitely not in Workstation Only mode, the
only other thought is that there is actually mode than one Location
Profile? (i.e. "Save profile after successful login" is indeed
unchecked in a location profile, but not in the location profile
actually in use.)

Hans-Dieter Eckardt <hans-dieter.eckardtNO@SPAMizfp-d.fraunhofer.de>
wrote:

> W. Prindl wrote:
> > Did you see the new loginw32.rll, which is in beta now? It definitely
> > solves problem (1).

>
> Yes, i have tested it, it solves problem (1),
> but not (2).
>
> Thanks for your answer.
> Hans-Dieter


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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

Alan Adams wrote:
> (Since "Workstation Only" always bypasses the Location Profile and
> displays the last Windows user to login from the DefaultUserName value


You are right. That was one problem.
I have tested a lot with german and english client and registry/policy
settings and have overlooked this.

Another problem was that even though no username was in the username
field of novell-user and windows-user of one location profile
every time the last windows user appeared in the windows tab
(only in german not in english client).
I deleted this profile and created a new one with the same settings
and now it works (no user name in both novell and windows user fields
as expected).

Thanks for your help.
Hans-Dieter
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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

Glad we can attribute at least part of it to "Workstation Only", since
otherwise there would have to be something very odd going on. 🙂

Truthfully I cannot think of a scenario that can intentionally achieve
that result ("even though no username was in the username field of
novell-user and windows-user of one location profile every time the
last windows user appeared in the windows tab"), so I don't even have
a guess for what could have been wrong with the location profile that
you deleted and re-created.

But at least it appears to be working now. If that scenario were to
return, perhaps we could examine more closely the registry data behind
the location profile, to try and determined what happened.

Hans-Dieter Eckardt <hans-dieter.eckardtNO@SPAMizfp-d.fraunhofer.de>
wrote:

> Alan Adams wrote:
> > (Since "Workstation Only" always bypasses the Location Profile and
> > displays the last Windows user to login from the DefaultUserName value

>
> You are right. That was one problem.
> I have tested a lot with german and english client and registry/policy
> settings and have overlooked this.
>
> Another problem was that even though no username was in the username
> field of novell-user and windows-user of one location profile
> every time the last windows user appeared in the windows tab
> (only in german not in english client).
> I deleted this profile and created a new one with the same settings
> and now it works (no user name in both novell and windows user fields
> as expected).
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Hans-Dieter


Alan Adams
alancrumbadams@drcrumb.com
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Alan Adams wrote:
>
> But at least it appears to be working now. If that scenario were to
> return, perhaps we could examine more closely the registry data behind
> the location profile, to try and determined what happened.
>


Yes, if I can reproduce this we should have a look at the registry
"HKLM\Software\Novell\Location Profiles" ...
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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

Dear Alan,

did you notice, that the new RLLs now introduced the problem already
known from the English RLL to the other languages, too?

If editing the location profiles / Login properties under client
properties, the NMAS tab has all options grayed out. So changes to NMAS
properties are now only possible via regedit. The German and I believe
some other non English RLLs of the original SP1 distribution does not
show this behaviour.


W. Prindl


Alan Adams wrote:

> For what it's worth, 4.91 SP1 German on XP Professional SP2 German
> works as I expect with regard to point (2). (It did indeed show
> problem (1) until the .RLLs that were just posted.)
>
> So that makes me wonder whether we're just talking about a
> configuration or process difference between the two machines, and not
> specifically the fact that one is German and one is English.
>
> With "Save profile after successful login" unchecked, the only other
> scenario in which I expect to see "the last logged-in user always
> shows up" is if the Novell login dialog is in "Workstation Only" mode.
> (Since "Workstation Only" always bypasses the Location Profile and
> displays the last Windows user to login from the DefaultUserName value
> under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon].)
>
> If the login dialog is definitely not in Workstation Only mode, the
> only other thought is that there is actually mode than one Location
> Profile? (i.e. "Save profile after successful login" is indeed
> unchecked in a location profile, but not in the location profile
> actually in use.)
>
> Hans-Dieter Eckardt <hans-dieter.eckardtNO@SPAMizfp-d.fraunhofer.de>
> wrote:
>
> > W. Prindl wrote:
> > > Did you see the new loginw32.rll, which is in beta now? It
> > > definitely solves problem (1).

> >
> > Yes, i have tested it, it solves problem (1),
> > but not (2).
> >
> > Thanks for your answer.
> > Hans-Dieter

>
> Alan Adams
> alancrumbadams@drcrumb.com
> (for email, remove the crumbs)

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Re: 4.91SP1 language bugs (?)

Yes, it looks like by getting all the 4.91 SP1 changes into the
non-English languages, that also brought along the issue 4.91 SP1
English was already encountering. Hopefully that means the fix for it
(if and when we get it) applies to all languages, too.

"W. Prindl" <05nos@pamtwbnospam.at> wrote:

> Dear Alan,
>
> did you notice, that the new RLLs now introduced the problem already
> known from the English RLL to the other languages, too?
>
> If editing the location profiles / Login properties under client
> properties, the NMAS tab has all options grayed out. So changes to NMAS
> properties are now only possible via regedit. The German and I believe
> some other non English RLLs of the original SP1 distribution does not
> show this behaviour.
>
>
> W. Prindl


Alan Adams
alancrumbadams@drcrumb.com
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