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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

Hello!

"Joseph Marton" <jmarton@NOSPAMhsemuni.com> wrote in message news:pan.2006.07.06.12.41.14.246245@NOSPAMhsemuni.com...
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:30:58 +0000, Barry Schnur wrote:
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>>> There's no Novell client for OS/2?! Dammit!
>>>

>> So write one!

>
> Um... I was kidding. The last time I used OS/2 was when I got tired of
> waiting for M$ to release "Chicago". Didn't IBM retire OS/2? Think I
> read something about that a little while back.


OS/2 is now called eComStation (eCS):
http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/os2/ecs.html

eComStation (eCS) was released by Serenity Systems as a
replacement for OS/2 Warp 4 which is no longer being sold
by IBM. IBM support for OS/2 and OS/2 Warp Server for e-
business (an excellent e-commerce platform--not well suited
to the single user) ends December 31, 2006. SOHO users
will find eComStation to be an excellent productivity platform
with lots of eye candy for those that like to enhance their
desktops.
---
Version 2.0 Improvements:
- Support for ACPI power management;
- Improved harddisk management;
- Support for Bootable JFS;
- Support for multi-user desktops;
- Support for Samba (Windows & Linux networking);
- TCPIP updates, including DHCP;
- Improved installation and migration options.


http://www.os2world.com/

Cheers, Roman


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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???


See, it ain't dead, just sleeping <g>.


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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

Barry Schnur wrote:
> See, it ain't dead, just sleeping <g>.
>
>


I think I will go check on the status of the Client for "eComStation"

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> I think I will go check on the status of the Client for "eComStation"
>

Make sure to get the Monty Python version....


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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:09:21 +0000, craig wilson wrote:

> Barry Schnur wrote:
>> See, it ain't dead, just sleeping <g>.
>>
>>

>
> I think I will go check on the status of the Client for "eComStation"


I hope there will be a client for eComStation64!

Joe
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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

Glad you guys are getting a kick out of insulting what few Netware users
who have not already jumped ship.

Comparing OS/2 to a mainstream OS like Windows 2003 server is an absurd stretch

They should have a client for it, and I am sure Novell will lose even more
marketshare for idiotic moves like this

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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

We weren't comparing them -- really. Those who wish to take offense at
our mutterings might well be predisposed to do that.

Note, a number of us did urge for Novell to offer Client 64 support for
XP 64. The thing here is that at least at the workstation (and that's
the primary target for a workstation client), XP 64 has turned out to
be a 'limited edition' product.

Vista -- that will be a different matter and support for it will be
important. But as a number of folks have noted, the Vista OS,
particularly in areas of interoperability and interconnectivity is
something that can change in nasty ways up until (and after for that
matter) the formal release.

That being said, I can confirm, for those interested in this sort of
connectivity, that it IS possible to configure NW 6.5 SP5 plus post SP5
updates and Vista 64 (Beta 2) to connect using NFA. For now, those who
are interested in this connectivity can certainly do it.

For those clamoring for Novell to release a Client 64 for a beta
product -- this might not suffice, I can understand that for this
particular mind set, Novell isn't going to make for happiness.



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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

A client for Windows Server 2003 x64 should also work for Windows XP x64 (to a large
degree they're the same OS), and because of the need (especially for terminal servers)
Novell should go ahead and release a client for these operating systems.

Windows Vista and Windows Server Longhorn are a totally different matter - they're beta,
and I wouldn't expect anything supported from Novell until Windows Vista is finished,
released and fully supported by Microsoft.

Customers can't wait to go 64-bit on terminal servers until Longhorn server, they need a
Novell Client for Windows Server 2003 x64, soon (and we need to request this using both
the enhancement request form on the Novell web site and through local Novell representatives).

-Sandy

Barry Schnur wrote on 2006-07-10 23:37 UTC:
> Note, a number of us did urge for Novell to offer Client 64 support for
> XP 64. The thing here is that at least at the workstation (and that's
> the primary target for a workstation client), XP 64 has turned out to
> be a 'limited edition' product.
>
> Vista -- that will be a different matter and support for it will be
> important. But as a number of folks have noted, the Vista OS,
> particularly in areas of interoperability and interconnectivity is
> something that can change in nasty ways up until (and after for that
> matter) the formal release.
>
> That being said, I can confirm, for those interested in this sort of
> connectivity, that it IS possible to configure NW 6.5 SP5 plus post SP5
> updates and Vista 64 (Beta 2) to connect using NFA. For now, those who
> are interested in this connectivity can certainly do it.
>
> For those clamoring for Novell to release a Client 64 for a beta
> product -- this might not suffice, I can understand that for this
> particular mind set, Novell isn't going to make for happiness.
>
>
>

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64 bit Novell Client for windows???

I'm researching alternative solutions and would like to point you to a
Slashdot post I submitted:

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/06/07/12/0131243.shtml

-Chad

> When is there going to be a 64 bit Windows compatible Novell client?
>
> Win64 has been out for a couple years now, what is the holdup??
>
> I am wanting to migrate some of our windows servers and high end
> workstations to 64 bit versions of windows and cant because there is no
> novell client that works on it.
>
> Native file access is not an option...
>
> Client service for netware is not an option because MS has given up on
> Netware like most of the rest of the world (it is not included in the 64
> bit versions, and wont be in "vista" workstation or server).
>
> Please advise, this is frustrating.


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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows???

> A client for Windows Server 2003 x64 should also work for Windows XP
> x64 (to a large degree they're the same OS), and because of the need
> (especially for terminal servers) Novell should go ahead and release
> a client for these operating systems.


Understood -- my read is that Novell didn't see a large enough user
pool (or potential revenue *source*) in their decision to not allocate
resources for this client. I do understand that some folks were
required by their support environment to go to a 64 bit version of the
Windows server OS (terminal servers in particular), but again, it seems
that Novell didn't see this population as something to spend money on
from their side in terms of client development.
>
> Windows Vista and Windows Server Longhorn are a totally different
> matter - they're beta, and I wouldn't expect anything supported
> from Novell until Windows Vista is finished, released and fully
> supported by Microsoft.


Right -- we are in synch on this one.

> Customers can't wait to go 64-bit on terminal servers until
> Longhorn server, they need a Novell Client for Windows Server
> 2003 x64, soon (and we need to request this using both the
> enhancement request form on the Novell web site and through
> local Novell representatives).


Right -- though I suspect that about the only way Novell would
reallocate resources to support this request is for Novell customers
with a LOT of CLOUT to push this.

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Re: 64 bit Novell Client for windows??? I WANT IT

Listen folks, I upgraded XP pro 32 to XP pro 64, it is drammaticaly
faster |!!! It is like butter !!!

comes bundled with 64-bit IE; I downloaded UNREAL 2004 64-bit update,
and FAR CRY 64-bit update. All MY DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE !!!!

EXCEPT I can't talk to my Netware 5.1 servers.

However, the horrible bug ridden trail of tears that Novell subjected us
to going from 4.90 to 4.1 SP2 gives me pause to allow Novell to get the
bugs out. Hopefully the new pres will slap them around and raise the
morale.

I'm running an AMD 64 3000+

-=Dick Simmons
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