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Access permissions

I must be missing something, but I am having problems with access
permissions to different directories.

In the login script, I have mapped several different drives to areas on
VOL1. Several of these have many sub-directories, but I am finding that I am
needing to set the different read/write/delete etc rights on each individual
directory.

This even happens with the administrator accounts.

This is a new Netware 6.5 setup, running SP3.

I must be missing something obvious, can someone point me in the right
direction?

Cheers

Martin


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Re: Access permissions

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:57:59 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>I must be missing something, but I am having problems with access
>permissions to different directories.
>
>In the login script, I have mapped several different drives to areas on
>VOL1. Several of these have many sub-directories, but I am finding that I am
>needing to set the different read/write/delete etc rights on each individual
>directory.


Do you mean that rights are not flowing down to sub-directories? Look
at the Inheritance Filter for the trustees in the directory
properties. The box for a right has to be checked for that right to
be inherited.

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Re: Access permissions

> Do you mean that rights are not flowing down to sub-directories? Look
> at the Inheritance Filter for the trustees in the directory
> properties. The box for a right has to be checked for that right to
> be inherited.


Yes that has solved it for some machines (windows 98) - thanks very much,
but others still have problems.

On Windows XP machines (running client 4.91) the users cannot, on some
directories, see any sub-directories. For instance, if they open a folder,
only files within it are visible. Folders are not visible.

Does this ring any bells? Google has drawn me a blank again.

Martin


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Re: Access permissions

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:57:50 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>On Windows XP machines (running client 4.91) the users cannot, on some
>directories, see any sub-directories. For instance, if they open a folder,
>only files within it are visible. Folders are not visible.


I can't think of anything specific, but use NWAdmin or C1 to take a
look at the attributes on the sub-directories. Windows does not
always interpret NetWare file and directory attributes they way you
might expect.

---------------
Donald Albury
Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
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explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson
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Re: Access permissions

Thanks. According to console 1 I have full access rights as to the relevant
directories, as do the other users concerned.

The problem appears to be, that users of Windows XP cannot see
sub-directories in certain folders. Windows 98 users can see these, and
access them with no problems.

Is there any explanation of this behaviour? This is true of ALL windows XP
machines on this network. On our previous (Netware 4.11) network, none of
these Win XP machines had any problems.

I stress, that this is not true of every directory on the network, only
some. And I cannot, using console one, see any difference in user
permissions on these folders, or their parents. Nor any other reason why
they should be hidden for Win XP users.

Can anyone suggest anything else - this is obviously a fairly major issue
now - many users not being able to access data etc.

Martin


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Re: Access permissions

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:53:04 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>Can anyone suggest anything else - this is obviously a fairly major issue
>now - many users not being able to access data etc.


I'll ask around.

---------------
Donald Albury
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Re: Access permissions


>>Can anyone suggest anything else - this is obviously a fairly major issue
>>now - many users not being able to access data etc.

>
> I'll ask around.
>


Thanks very much!



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Re: Access permissions

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:02:36 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>> I'll ask around.

>
>Thanks very much!


First response of a fellow SysOp:

>I had a similar problem after a migration using the migration wizard
>from tfs to nss volumes - there were some directories with strange
>characters in the name and they showed up as files but you couldn't do
>anything or see anything below them in XP, but a win98 workstation
>could delete them - never did get to the reason why


Does any of that fit your case?

---------------
Donald Albury
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explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
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Re: Access permissions

SSP Admin,

Some more suggestions:

Get the latest patches on the 4.91 client:
491_pka.exe
491_nwgina_3.exe
491_nwfs_5.exe

Get the latest patches on the NW 6.5 SP3 server:
nw65os3a.exe
n65nss3a.exe

Run NSS /VisibilityRebuild=<volume>

---------------
Donald Albury
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explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson
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Re: Access permissions

Hi Donald,

I've tried everything in that list and it has made no difference. Any more
suggestions?

Thanks

Martin


"Donald Albury" <dalbury@not.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:7jf0e1dugp3ppr2jo9sa4u7ds3q45eef5k@4ax.com...
> SSP Admin,
>
> Some more suggestions:
>
> Get the latest patches on the 4.91 client:
> 491_pka.exe
> 491_nwgina_3.exe
> 491_nwfs_5.exe
>
> Get the latest patches on the NW 6.5 SP3 server:
> nw65os3a.exe
> n65nss3a.exe
>
> Run NSS /VisibilityRebuild=<volume>
>
> ---------------
> Donald Albury
> Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
> Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses
>
> "If something is so complicated that you can't
> explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
> worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson



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Re: Access permissions

>
>>I had a similar problem after a migration using the migration wizard
>>from tfs to nss volumes - there were some directories with strange
>>characters in the name and they showed up as files but you couldn't do
>>anything or see anything below them in XP, but a win98 workstation
>>could delete them - never did get to the reason why

>
> Does any of that fit your case?
>


Not really, I didn't use the migration wizard, and the directories don't
have strange characters in their names and aren't showing up as files.
Though the fact that this happened to your colleague in Win XP and not Win
98 is familiar.

Martin


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Re: Access permissions

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:58:45 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>I've tried everything in that list and it has made no difference. Any more
>suggestions?


Let me ask around some more.

---------------
Donald Albury
Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses

"If something is so complicated that you can't
explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson
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Re: Access permissions

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:58:45 GMT, "SPP Admin"
<mre@yahoodonteventhinkaboutspam.com> wrote:

>I've tried everything in that list and it has made no difference. Any more
>suggestions?


Let's review your licensing. I've been reminded that licensing
problems are to be suspected when something works for W98, but not XP
clients. do you have the NW 6.5 server license in or above the
container(s) holding servers? Do you have the NW 6.5 user licenses in
or above all containers that hold users? Do you have an
NLS_LSP_servername object for each server, in the same container as
the server?

---------------
Donald Albury
Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
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"If something is so complicated that you can't
explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson
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Re: Access permissions


SPP Admin wrote:
> I must be missing something, but I am having problems with access
> permissions to different directories.
>
> In the login script, I have mapped several different drives to areas on
> VOL1. Several of these have many sub-directories, but I am finding that I am
> needing to set the different read/write/delete etc rights on each individual
> directory.
>
> This even happens with the administrator accounts.
>
> This is a new Netware 6.5 setup, running SP3.
>
> I must be missing something obvious, can someone point me in the right
> direction?
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin


Martin,
If they're NSS volumes, look on Novell's site at "nss
/visibilityrebuild"

TID10066206 talks about it for Netware 5x/6.0, but I've seen it even on
upgrades to NW65SP2. Symptom was that following an in-place upgrade,
users could not see the file structure unless specific rights were
assigned.

Dave

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Re: Access permissions

Donald,

I've been off for a couple of days, so I will review the suggestions you've
made and get back to you with any results.

Thanks

Martin

"Donald Albury" <dalbury@not.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> SPP Admin,
>
> Another suggestion:
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10097474.htm
>
> ---------------
> Donald Albury
> Novell Product Support Volunteer SysOp
> Sorry, no replies to e-mail responses
>
> "If something is so complicated that you can't
> explain it in 10 seconds, then it's probably not
> worth knowing anyway." Bill Waterson



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