SheaNeel Absent Member.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

deryk;1787247 wrote:
SLP I will have to look into, admittedly I'm more of a Windows expert than a Novell one. Setting the SLP server setting in DHCP (option 78) was of no help, which is about as far as my knowledge goes on that subject so far!


I don't know how I survived ignoring SLP in our mixed NetWare/Windows environment. Oh yeah...IPX. I will tell you, there are so many options for how to implement SLP, the Novell TIDs and documentation leaves you hanging. There are definately best practices you won't find.

I have a PowerPoint given to me by a guy who taught "pure IP" classes at Novell Brain Share. He is also part owner of a tech services company. He walked me through our setup. I'd recommend hiring one of his people to just walk you through it, if you have the buget. But I would be happy to e-mail you the PP.

My environment is Windows DHCP/DNS servers, NetWare file servers, with Windows workstations. Delivering SLP info to workstations via Windows DHCP works well. Gives your Novell Client a nice quick log in. Adding option 78 and 79 to DHCP (Microsoft Article 285019) is only part of the setup.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Allen,

I, like others, appreciate the inside information you have provided.

You mentioned in your above post that you have been passing information on to the client development team. Here are a few things:

In Windows 7 64bit, try using the built-in compression tool to package several files stored on an NSS volume. You'll only get the first file in the list.

Also, AutoCAD has a BIM product called Revit Architecture. It allows several users to work on the same project. The software writes client changes to a central project file. This works using the latest Novell Client on Vista 64 bit, but not when using the Novell Client on Windows 7 64bit. Storage volumes are NSS.

The first issue is easy to replicate. The second, not so much. However, Revit is mission critical to our company, as is 64 bit processing. I wonder if there is a way we could play a role in documenting the problem.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

We to have a customer running Acad10 and Revit under win7/64bits

We've found one very strange solution in regards to Autodesks sw.
Actually, two solutions depending on the problem vs plattform.


1 Win7/64 bits.
With Revit and Acad10, it seems that users couldnt "find the file" if
it was opened by another user. No error message like "file in use" or
something, simply ,, file cant be found...

All together, what solved this and made it work BETTER (??) is to do
completly backwards to what's normally suggested;
it is; enable file caching on the client.
NOT needed to be changed on the server, simply enable file caching in
the NWclient and "voila" stuff works as inteded including a
warning/question if the user want's an open file.


2 Autocad with "other" win OS's.
Seems that some of the projekt tools that can be used with later
Autodesk products, using the NW-client is simply NOT an option.
There was some threads also at autodesk's forums, but none helped.

What DO solve the problem though is to enable CIFS and access the same
volume/files through CIFS instead.




On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:36:04 GMT, SheaNeel
<SheaNeel@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
>Allen,
>
>I, like others, appreciate the inside information you have provided.
>
>You mentioned in your above post that you have been passing information
>on to the client development team. Here are a few things:
>
>In Windows 7 64bit, try using the built-in compression tool to package
>several files stored on an NSS volume. You'll only get the first file in
>the list.
>
>Also, AutoCAD has a BIM product called Revit Architecture. It allows
>several users to work on the same project. The software writes client
>changes to a central project file. This works using the latest Novell
>Client on Vista 64 bit, but not when using the Novell Client on Windows
>7 64bit. Storage volumes are NSS.
>
>The first issue is easy to replicate. The second, not so much. However,
>Revit is mission critical to our company, as is 64 bit processing. I
>wonder if there is a way we could play a role in documenting the
>problem.


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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Don't raise your hopes. Novell are running out of customers, money and support. They lost interest in everything except big corporate customers and IDM a long time ago and shipped everything off to India.

I only have a couple of customers left, and one of those is moving to MS after the holiday.

The sooner they either sell or shut up shop the better.

briley64;1786608 wrote:
Anyone know if Novell is going to release a client for Windows 7? Even if it's just a beta for us to test? If so....when?

Thanks
Bruce
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

On 02/01/2010 11:26, hmartin wrote:

> Don't raise your hopes. Novell are running out of customers, money and
> support. They lost interest in everything except big corporate customers
> and IDM a long time ago and shipped everything off to India.
>
> I only have a couple of customers left, and one of those is moving to
> MS after the holiday.
>
> The sooner they either sell or shut up shop the better.


Novell are planning to release a Novell Client which supports Windows 7
as well as adding 64-bit support for Vista and Server 2008 on 12 January.

See
http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=3882364&sliceId=1
for more information.

HTH.
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Novell Knowledge Partner (NKP)

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Re: Client for Windows 7?

smflood;1911644 wrote:
On 02/01/2010 11:26, hmartin wrote:

> Don't raise your hopes. Novell are running out of customers, money and
> support. They lost interest in everything except big corporate customers
> and IDM a long time ago and shipped everything off to India.
>
> I only have a couple of customers left, and one of those is moving to
> MS after the holiday.
>
> The sooner they either sell or shut up shop the better.


Novell are planning to release a Novell Client which supports Windows 7
as well as adding 64-bit support for Vista and Server 2008 on 12 January.

See
Novell client support for Windows 7 and Windows x64
for more information.

HTH.
--
Simon
Novell Knowledge Partner (NKP)

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The beta Windows 7 client works pretty good, so I am looking forward to the final release.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

GreenNight;1912702 wrote:
The beta Windows 7 client works pretty good, so I am looking forward to the final release.


Yup, hopefully Novell will keep their "promise" to release it on 12th of January.

Thomas
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

On 05/01/2010 22:16, thsundel wrote:

> Yup, hopefully Novell will keep their "promise" to release it on 12th
> of January.


It's been released today which by my reckoning is a day early! 🙂

http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=0aOpW9QmGHc

HTH.
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Simon
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Just tried it. Brand new Laptop (HP), very clean system, and the new client for windows 7 simply does not work -- it does not see the trees.

I'm in IT, so I tried every trick I could think of.

Waste of my time.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Barnell;1915379 wrote:
Just tried it. Brand new Laptop (HP), very clean system, and the new client for windows 7 simply does not work -- it does not see the trees.

I'm in IT, so I tried every trick I could think of.

Waste of my time.


Have you checked the SLP settings?

T
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Barnell;1915379 wrote:
Just tried it. Brand new Laptop (HP), very clean system, and the new client for windows 7 simply does not work -- it does not see the trees.

I'm in IT, so I tried every trick I could think of.

Waste of my time.


Yep, I had the exact same problem. Just like the Vista client, it cannot see the tree. Still works, though, if you login to Windows first.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

gaddiel;1915763 wrote:
Yep, I had the exact same problem. Just like the Vista client, it cannot see the tree. Still works, though, if you login to Windows first.

The new Novell Client 2 SP1 seems to have fixed the outstanding issues with running the login scripts at boot up time. No issues finding the tree. We use SLP and LDAP contextless login here.

I am having an issue with LDAP Contextless login not being able to resolve the DNS alias we use for our LDAP servers on bootup. It appears this is an issue with Windows 7's dnsresolver probably not being started yet. In other words I can wait a minute or two after the workstation is up and everything resolves ok.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

Been using the Vista version with no major issues apart from not mapping all my drives.

Downloaded and installed the Windows 7 version and had problem after problem.
Wouldnt find trees, then it would
Took an age to logon and display desktop
Then crashing and BSOD - no changes other than client version

Had to go to restore point before new client loaded and OK now.
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Re: Client for Windows 7?

We found another strange issue;

All PC's are 100% the same, installed from sysprep
and the same HW.

So,, using an existing PC with previous/latest beta Win7/64bit and
then install new Win7/64 client = OK.
Feels a little slower upon initial login, though that's not a problem

BUT,
Using any clean/newly installed Win7/64 bit system and then installing
the new NWclient does NOT work at all ?

1st = install as is, including nman results in error while installing
nmas and any login to NW impossible. Also, trying to use advanced
means a big white screen with no boxes or anything....

2nd test= installing without nman, no error in the install,
though no login possible and trying to use advanced results in
win-error regarding underlying visuabasic stuff not responding....




On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:06:03 GMT, difolcod
<difolcod@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote:

>
>Been using the Vista version with no _major__issues apart from not
>mapping all my drives.
>
>Downloaded and installed the Windows 7 version and had problem after
>problem.
>Wouldnt find trees, then it would
>Took an age to logon and display desktop
>Then crashing and BSOD - no changes other than client version
>
>Had to go to restore point before new client loaded and OK now.


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Re: Client for Windows 7?

cpratt;1915824 wrote:
The new Novell Client 2 SP1 seems to have fixed the outstanding issues with running the login scripts at boot up time. No issues finding the tree. We use SLP and LDAP contextless login here.

I am having an issue with LDAP Contextless login not being able to resolve the DNS alias we use for our LDAP servers on bootup. It appears this is an issue with Windows 7's dnsresolver probably not being started yet. In other words I can wait a minute or two after the workstation is up and everything resolves ok.


I cannot get this to work for me.

I have entered all the same settings for slp that worked on version 4.91 sp5 of novell client but no joy.

I have tried local login, then novell login after a few minutes, still no joy. Sometimes I can see all our trees briefly, but then browsing servers or contexts they have all gone again, including the treees.

I have tried ip address rather than dns name for slp/nldap, still no joy.

Anything else I can try?

Thanks
IanB
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