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ESXI 5.5 and Netware 6.5

We have a stable and well working Netware 6.5 server - it is simply authenticating people and handling our files. It is on an older Dell server with Raid 5 and redundant power, network etc. Well it WAS. Recently on a Monday morning the server was not accessible. I got in to idrac and the server looked ok - no errors etc but I thought a restart would be in order as it had probably been almost a year since last reboot. Reboot didn't help - in fact reboot hung. It hung after going through the basic pre-boot scans etc and would not come up. Finally I came in to the office and my tech had by then noticed the front information screen was complaining about a power supply being inop. He pulled the inop power supply out and the server then rebooted (??? why was that preventing boot?) but we still could not access the server - I discovered that I could get to it through the secondary IP (2 cards) so I swapped the ips and then we could get to it. So it seemed a power supply went out and 1 nic. So then this has prompted me to be worried about this server. Purchased a Dell T320 - discovered that I really could not install Netware 6.5 on it.

Current - I have installed ESXI 5.5 on it and have installed Netware 6.5 in pre-migration mode and am now currently copying our data - about 1.6 tb. I will probably have the copying done this week. I have done a physical to physical migration before and it went perfectly and I have all my notes (it was about 2 years ago). But I just have this little nagging apprehension diving in to the migration. I see at least one post on these threads where someone was doing a migration and just at the point that the old server went down and new one was to become the server - something went wrong. Of course my worst nightmare is 2 non working servers. I have all the data backed up so that isn't a huge deal - I also have a replica for DS.

Anyone have any experience with this? I started off using esxi 4.1 but ran into the disk space limitation and I wanted to use as much of my new space as I could so that is why I went to esxi 5.5.

Thanks!
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Melaniee,
> I see at least one
> post on these threads where someone was doing a migration and just at
> the point that the old server went down and new one was to become the
> server - something went wrong. Of course my worst nightmare is 2 non
> working servers. I have all the data backed up so that isn't a huge
> deal - I also have a replica for DS.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this? I started off using esxi 4.1 but
> ran into the disk space limitation and I wanted to use as much of my new
> space as I could so that is why I went to esxi 5.5.


Migration to an VM is identical to a physical migration. Also note that
the process to revert a failed migration is documented in the migration
docs.

Other than that, 6.5 SP8 runs just fine on ESXi 5.x

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AndersG;2328895 wrote:
Melaniee,
> I see at least one
> post on these threads where someone was doing a migration and just at
> the point that the old server went down and new one was to become the
> server - something went wrong. Of course my worst nightmare is 2 non
> working servers. I have all the data backed up so that isn't a huge
> deal - I also have a replica for DS.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this? I started off using esxi 4.1 but
> ran into the disk space limitation and I wanted to use as much of my new
> space as I could so that is why I went to esxi 5.5.


Migration to an VM is identical to a physical migration. Also note that
the process to revert a failed migration is documented in the migration
docs.

Other than that, 6.5 SP8 runs just fine on ESXi 5.x

--
Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit:
http://www.novell.com/rms




Thanks for the reply - I'll move forward. I'm in the process of copying the data - it is nice to be able to use an virtual network between the server and a virtual desktop machine to do the copying from backups. Once the majority of the data is copied I can just do compare copies.

I will proceed with the migration and hope it goes just as smoothly as it did last time.
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Well this may not be the right path for me. After getting Netware installed and copying my 2TB of data to the new server I restarted it and it only mounts _admin and nothing else. This after I spent days copying data from backups to it. I think I'll have to throw in the towel. There are no error along the way of Netware loading - it just says there are no netware partitions available to load any volumes.
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Well after re-installing netware 3 or 4 times now it seems that as soon as I expand my pool (to use all the disk space available) and / or add volumes besides just sys then sys will no longer mount and netware doesn't see any netware partitions any longer. If I leave the system as it defaults to when installing it will run fine - or in the case of what I did before - left it as default, then went in and expanded the pool, created volumes, mounted them and then copied my data to them - worked fine until the next re-boot and then no longer accessible. I have now tried the Dell ISO files for esxi 4.1, 5.1 and 5.5. I don't want to use 4.1 as it will not let me use all my disk space. About to give up and send the hardware back to Dell.
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On 18.08.2014 23:36, melaniee wrote:
>
> Well after re-installing netware 3 or 4 times now it seems that as soon
> as I expand my pool (to use all the disk space available) and / or add
> volumes besides just sys then sys will no longer mount and netware
> doesn't see any netware partitions any longer.


You are aware Netware has a 2TB device and partition limit, much like
every older OS? This sounds as if you're crossing that border, thus
destroying all your data.

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The last install attempt I set the disk for the netware VM to 2 tb and it still failed when I expanded the pool. I will try expanding the pool to be smaller and see what that does.
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melaniee;2329832 wrote:
The last install attempt I set the disk for the netware VM to 2 tb and it still failed when I expanded the pool. I will try expanding the pool to be smaller and see what that does.


Then do it again. I run numerous migrations (physiscl-physical, physical virtual, virtual-virtual) over the years, with multiple volumes up to 2Tb each (ie 7 per server) with no issues ever.
ESXi supports NW perfectly, did not reboot my file server (virtual) for months at time

Seb
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