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Login issues after NW65 SP4

We applied SP4 to our NW65 server a short while ago.

We're experiencing one or two oddities when people try and login. The client
seems to be installed OK on the machines in question, but it simply will not
allow you to login.

Does anyone know of any issues?


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Re: Login issues after NW65 SP4

Dave,

What error messages are you getting after these failed logins?
Any error messages in login results window assuming it comes up?

Is that SP4 as in SP4a?
http://support.novell.com/filefinder/18197/index.html

Lets gather some more details about your environment...

What version and SP of the Novell Client and Windows?
Any additional components of the client installed?
What protocols are bound to the client?

Windows Event logs showing anything unusual?
Was Windows installed from scratch, a custom image, or an OEM image?

Security or any other driver-based software like firewall, VPN, remote
management, antivirus, etc. installed and running?

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Tony Pedretti


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Re: Login issues after NW65 SP4

Well from what I've seen so far its on XP clients, 4.9x I believe. The SP is
4a.

The message you recieve is simply one along the line of "cannot log you into
the network" - what you'd normally expect if the password was wrong.. you
don't get anywhere near the script results window.

The standard build I tend to use on the PCs is using only IP, and manually
specifying the DA address in the client (as we use microsoft DHCP - dont
ask). We don't use any of the client extras such as workstation manager,
though I tend to install the NMAS client, and I think it may be this thats
causing the problem.

One of our helpdesk chaps first noticed the error on his PC when trying to
create a user in NWADMIN. It gave an error about a keypair, and I looked it
up and it said the NMAS client wasn't present on the workstation.

I got a mail from him on friday saying that a few people were having the
problem about it not allowing logins the first time (i.e. when the PC was
first booted) but I'm assuming it would in subsequent attempts. I've seen
the error on another PC myself, I entered my details, it thought about it,
then blue screened with a windows XP error about the windows login process
(or something like that).

It could well be nothing, but just thought I'd post incase anyone had
encountered anything similar.



"Tony Pedretti" <ynotpe@NoSpAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave,
>
> What error messages are you getting after these failed logins?
> Any error messages in login results window assuming it comes up?
>
> Is that SP4 as in SP4a?
> http://support.novell.com/filefinder/18197/index.html
>
> Lets gather some more details about your environment...
>
> What version and SP of the Novell Client and Windows?
> Any additional components of the client installed?
> What protocols are bound to the client?
>
> Windows Event logs showing anything unusual?
> Was Windows installed from scratch, a custom image, or an OEM image?
>
> Security or any other driver-based software like firewall, VPN, remote
> management, antivirus, etc. installed and running?
>
> --
> Tony Pedretti
>



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Re: Login issues after NW65 SP4

Login/password issues along with the NMAS client not being would be
expected.
Avoid NMAS unless you need/want to use Universal/Enhanced password or other
Nsure Identity Manager (DirXML) services.

Prevent NMAS Authentication from being enabled while installing the Novell
Client 4.90 for NT/2000/XP
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10086934.htm

Automated Uninstall of NMAS
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/14656.html

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Tony Pedretti


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Re: Login issues after NW65 SP4

We only use the basics in e-directory and Netware to be honest.

Is there something on the server I need do disable to prevent this from
happening?

As I mentioend before, a colleague had trouble creating users in Netware
Admin when he removed the nmas client from his PC.

Thanks for the links, I will take a look.


"Tony Pedretti" <ynotpe@NoSpAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Login/password issues along with the NMAS client not being would be
> expected.
> Avoid NMAS unless you need/want to use Universal/Enhanced password or
> other Nsure Identity Manager (DirXML) services.
>
> Prevent NMAS Authentication from being enabled while installing the Novell
> Client 4.90 for NT/2000/XP
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10086934.htm
>
> Automated Uninstall of NMAS
> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/14656.html
>
> --
> Tony Pedretti
>



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Re: Login issues after NW65 SP4

I wasn't aware that some plug-ins to NWADMIN required NMAS. I know NICI is
needed by some in ConsoleOne. Both NMAS and NICI are needed for local
installs of iManager.

NMAS is a standard service on NetWare 6.5 so aside from configuring Identity
Manager there isn't much you can do on that end. For those workstations
with login/password issues disabling or removing NMAS is likely the
solution.

You might consider disabling NMAS Authentication by using the following
Group Policy template or merging a registry file...

CLIENT 4.9x ADM
Administrative Template for Novell Client 4.9x
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/1903.html

AppNote: Novell Client 4.9 SP2 : Initialization, Login and Settings
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/620.html

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Tony Pedretti


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