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Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

Pure speculative discussion follows (if you are so inclined to wonder and comment with your best guesses):
Do you expect the new Novell "Neutron" file access ecosystem as outlined here to supplant the current iFolder client and traditional Novell NCP mapped drives sourced from the Novell Client for file sharing in the future or do you suppose things will continue to be a mixed approach going forward, depending on an organization's needs? OR will what we now know as quintessential NetWare/OES core services be considered "legacy" services Novell will recommend moving away from within the next one or two OES releases? Will those traditional Novell services die the slow death of limited attention or outright abandonment or will they be upgraded along with other new "cool" features?

Some exciting things are potentially on the way it seems...but is it more Windows Serverish copycat (having the user feel as if they are connected to a Windows Server domain) or will it still feel like NetWare services at heart?...
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

On 03/08/2011 04:36, gcps testid wrote:

> Pure speculative discussion follows (if you are so inclined to wonder
> and comment with your best guesses):
> Do you expect the new Novell "Neutron" file access ecosystem as
> outlined 'here'
> (http://www.gwavacon.com/fileadmin/GWAVACon/Berlin2010/Novell_Open_Enterprise_Server_Roadmap_and_Futures.PDF)
> to supplant the current iFolder client and traditional Novell NCP mapped
> drives sourced from the Novell Client for file sharing in the future or
> do you suppose things will continue to be a mixed approach going
> forward, depending on an organization's needs? OR will what we now know
> as quintessential NetWare/OES core services be considered "legacy"
> services Novell will recommend moving away from within the next one or
> two OES releases? Will those traditional Novell services die the slow
> death of limited attention or outright abandonment or will they be
> upgraded along with other new "cool" features?
>
> Some exciting things are potentially on the way it seems...but is it
> more Windows Serverish copycat (having the user feel as if they are
> connected to a Windows Server domain) or will it still feel like NetWare
> services at heart?...


Expect to hear more about (and see) Neutron at BrainShare in October.

Until then it's all just speculation.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

gcps testid,
>
> Some exciting things are potentially on the way it seems...but is it
> more Windows Serverish copycat (having the user feel as if they are
> connected to a Windows Server domain) or will it still feel like NetWare
> services at heart?...
>
>


I'm just hoping for a viable replacement for iFolder 2.1.x.


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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

Due to my lack of experience with iFolder 2.1.x, what in particular causes you to wish for an alternative to it?

Douglas Black;2125678 wrote:
gcps testid,
>
> Some exciting things are potentially on the way it seems...but is it
> more Windows Serverish copycat (having the user feel as if they are
> connected to a Windows Server domain) or will it still feel like NetWare
> services at heart?...
>
>


I'm just hoping for a viable replacement for iFolder 2.1.x.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

gcps testid,

>
> Due to my lack of experience with iFolder 2.1.x, what in particular
> causes you to wish for an alternative to it?
>


Only the fact that it runs on an obsolete OS. Otherwise I'd happily
keep using it in production for as long as my tenure here lasts.
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what is the obsolete OS you speak of?

Douglas Black;2126412 wrote:
gcps testid,

>
> Due to my lack of experience with iFolder 2.1.x, what in particular
> causes you to wish for an alternative to it?
>


Only the fact that it runs on an obsolete OS. Otherwise I'd happily
keep using it in production for as long as my tenure here lasts.
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gcps testid,

>
> what is the obsolete OS you speak of?
>


http://obsoleteskills.com/skills/netware
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

On 10/08/2011 13:32, Douglas Black wrote:

> http://obsoleteskills.com/skills/netware


NetWare 6.5 included iFolder 2.x with OES2 (Linux) including iFolder 3.x.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

Are you planning to transition to OES2 or OES11 when it arrives or do you plan to rip and replace Novell services with another vendor's offering eventually?

Douglas Black;2127092 wrote:
gcps testid,

>
> what is the obsolete OS you speak of?
>


skills:netware [ObsoleteSkills][/url]
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

Any estimated release date yet for OES11?

smflood;2125527 wrote:
On 03/08/2011 04:36, gcps testid wrote:

> Pure speculative discussion follows (if you are so inclined to wonder
> and comment with your best guesses):
> Do you expect the new Novell "Neutron" file access ecosystem as
> outlined 'here'
> (http://www.gwavacon.com/fileadmin/GWAVACon/Berlin2010/Novell_Open_Enterprise_Server_Roadmap_and_Futures.PDF)
> to supplant the current iFolder client and traditional Novell NCP mapped
> drives sourced from the Novell Client for file sharing in the future or
> do you suppose things will continue to be a mixed approach going
> forward, depending on an organization's needs? OR will what we now know
> as quintessential NetWare/OES core services be considered "legacy"
> services Novell will recommend moving away from within the next one or
> two OES releases? Will those traditional Novell services die the slow
> death of limited attention or outright abandonment or will they be
> upgraded along with other new "cool" features?
>
> Some exciting things are potentially on the way it seems...but is it
> more Windows Serverish copycat (having the user feel as if they are
> connected to a Windows Server domain) or will it still feel like NetWare
> services at heart?...


Expect to hear more about (and see) Neutron at BrainShare in October.

Until then it's all just speculation.
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Simon
Novell Knowledge Partner (NKP)

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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

I assume the answer to that last question will be revealed at Brainshare?
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

On 31/08/2011 16:06, markovhe wrote:

> I assume the answer to that last question will be revealed at
> Brainshare?


Well there are a number of OES11 sessions listed in the BrainShare
session catalog @
https://www.novellbrainshare.com/slc2011/scheduler/public.jsp ...

HTH.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

gcps_testid;2127409 wrote:
Are you planning to transition to OES2 or OES11 when it arrives or do you plan to rip and replace Novell services with another vendor's offering eventually?


Well, so far we are REALLY happy with OES2 SP2, installed about 1.5 years ago, knock on wood...no real issues, just stable AS HELL. This is just my perspective, but I think novell is on the RIGHT TRACK with oes11, I really want them to keep edir and ldap for that beautiful and redundant unified directory, because edir is just plain stable and awesome, but the idea of the focus being on a unified filesystem in realtime shared on every conceivable device, is an awesome notion. When I look at the roadmap it seems there will be oes11 neutron apps/client for ios, droid etc, and this is what oes11 needs, as well it seems there will be a native mac neutron client too...this rocks too. I really think this is the right direction ubiquitous access for all, built on their awesome edir services. Anyways, it looks promising...hopefully delivery method is good. Can't wait for brainshare.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

Any estimated release date stated at Brainshare or elsewhere?

smflood;2133329 wrote:
On 31/08/2011 16:06, markovhe wrote:

> I assume the answer to that last question will be revealed at
> Brainshare?


Well there are a number of OES11 sessions listed in the BrainShare
session catalog @
https://www.novellbrainshare.com/slc2011/scheduler/public.jsp ...

HTH.
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Re: Novell "Neutron" in OES11 and beyond

gcps testid wrote:

>
> Any estimated release date stated at Brainshare or elsewhere?
>
> smflood;2133329 Wrote:
>> On 31/08/2011 16:06, markovhe wrote:
>>
>> > I assume the answer to that last question will be revealed at
>> > Brainshare?

>>
>> Well there are a number of OES11 sessions listed in the BrainShare
>> session catalog @
>> https://www.novellbrainshare.com/slc2011/scheduler/public.jsp ...
>>
>> HTH.
>> --
>> Simon
>> Novell Knowledge Partner (NKP)
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>> Transfer Partner (TTP) program. See novell.com/ttp for more details.
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>
>


Not till the spring they said.
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