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OES 2 / SLES 11 / Netware?!?

Forgive me for asking stupid questions but, what is the preferred upgrade path for physical Netware 6.5 sp8 boxes to Virtual (VM Ware) Linux based systems?

We have SLES 11 running several of our Novell related products (Datasync, Reload) so are familiar with SLES 10 and 11. Is OES2 required in order to "keep" Netware or can you use SLES?

Is the new Netware the same as as we know it but instead of a DOS backbone it is now Linux based? OR, is OES2 the "new" Netware, using Trees and Containers, etc., and therefore we must load OES2 on our Virtual boxes?

We like SLES 11 because we are using the version provided by VM Ware, tailored for their underlying OS but could easily load up some OES boxes.

What I haven't been able to find is HOW one would load "Netware" as we know it, on to a SLES box so I am left assuming that OES2 IS the new Netware whic, again, is fine if not abundantly clear to my naive and simple mind.

Further, it is our intention to use the Netware Migration Wizard to migrate from Physical to virtual, in whatever form the virtual system may take. Has anyone had experience migrating just the "brains" / NDS portion of the server and then using backup software to RESTORE the data?

We back up trustees, etc., so this should work once the server is migrated. Any caveats to this process if we are jumping from Netware on DOS to Netware on linux?

I know it's a lot, but I appreciate your responses!

Chris
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Re: OES 2 / SLES 11 / Netware?!?

On 01/03/2011 15:06, cdiiorio wrote:

> Forgive me for asking stupid questions but, what is the preferred
> upgrade path for physical Netware 6.5 sp8 boxes to Virtual (VM Ware)
> Linux based systems?


You would need to install the Linux system and then migrate services
and/or data across from NetWare.

> We have SLES 11 running several of our Novell related products
> (Datasync, Reload) so are familiar with SLES 10 and 11. Is OES2
> required in order to "keep" Netware or can you use SLES?


OES <> SLES.

OES offers most of the NetWare services and is installed on top of
SLES10 (and not currently SLES11).

> Is the new Netware the same as as we know it but instead of a DOS
> backbone it is now Linux based? OR, is OES2 the "new" Netware, using
> Trees and Containers, etc., and therefore we must load OES2 on our
> Virtual boxes?


More like the latter.

> We like SLES 11 because we are using the version provided by VM Ware,
> tailored for their underlying OS but could easily load up some OES
> boxes.


Ah so you're using SLES for VMware (which is SLES11 SP1 with essentially
some branding changes)?

If this is the case then you can NOT install any version of OES2 as
add-on on top since all current versions of OES2 require SLES10 (OES2
SPs are tied to specific SLES10 SPs).

> What I haven't been able to find is HOW one would load "Netware" as we
> know it, on to a SLES box so I am left assuming that OES2 IS the new
> Netware whic, again, is fine if not abundantly clear to my naive and
> simple mind.


For OES2 you would install SLES10 with OES2 as an add-on.

There is a "NetWare option" as such which is to virtualise NetWare
servers under Xen but since you sound like you're using SLES for VMware
then another branding change is removal of Xen bits (not a big surprise
there!). That's limited to later SPs of NetWare 6.5 which included
paravirtualisation but since NetWare is now in extended support not a
good idea to install new NetWare servers.

> Further, it is our intention to use the Netware Migration Wizard to
> migrate from Physical to virtual, in whatever form the virtual system
> may take. Has anyone had experience migrating just the "brains" / NDS
> portion of the server and then using backup software to RESTORE the
> data?


Migration Wizard has been replaced with Migration Tools, included with
OES Linux, which will support the above scenario though can also be used
to migrate data.

> We back up trustees, etc., so this should work once the server is
> migrated. Any caveats to this process if we are jumping from Netware on
> DOS to Netware on linux?


This should work even if you mean OES on Linux!

> I know it's a lot, but I appreciate your responses!


HTH.
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Simon
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Re: OES 2 / SLES 11 / Netware?!?

Thank you for such a complete answer! Suddenly the cloud has been lifted.

Chris
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