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OES11 backup vendors

Does anyone know if any backup vendors supports OES11 (and of course NSS) yet? And, are there significant changes with OES11 NSS? Or should OES2 backup vendors continue to work for OES11, without an update?

For anyone who is interested, here is a link to various software partners for OES.
Open Enterprise Server | Partners

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We're currently using BackupExec and it definitely doesn't work with OES11 NSS, even though it does with OES2. There is another post on the forum about other people with that issue.

I've heard that Syncsort and Arkeia do work and am currently finding out prices. The trouble is backup software is expensive and BackupExec is working with everything else we've got.
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Ah yes....I see it now under the thread 'OES and Sles11sp1 upgrade Backup Exec cannot backup nss vols'

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patrickb wrote:

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> Does anyone know if any backup vendors supports OES11 (and of course
> NSS) yet? And, are there significant changes with OES11 NSS? Or should
> OES2 backup vendors continue to work for OES11, without an update?


This gives a matrix of different backup vendors.

http://www.novell.com/products/openenterpriseserver/partner-products.html

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On 03.02.2012 16:16, patrickb wrote:
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> Ah yes....I see it now under the thread 'OES and Sles11sp1 upgrade
> Backup Exec cannot backup nss vols'


Note that Novell has ientified the issue with Backup Exec, and let me
just say, it's not really "technical". If symantec does anything about
it or not is up to them. Novell really can't "fix" it.

Another product working fine with OES11 is Sep Sesam.

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Based on my experience the only backup software i'd even both with is sesam

everything else has been utter crap to put it nicely

Failing that if you have to use backup exec, you could use file replication pro on your tape server and every OES box you want to back up, then dump the whole lot to tape on your BE windows box - we do this for several novell clients now and it works a treat

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You can use SEP Sesam. With this software you can backup OES2, OES11 and also Netware. See SEP - Backup, Restore & Disaster Recovery Software: Home .

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In case anyone is still trying to get BE2010 to backup NSS volumes in OES11... After several support calls to Symantec, the second level tech finally offered a work around. Apparently someone at Novell came up with this so I don't understand why it isn't easier to find the information.

Change the novell-release file in /etc to an OES2 version. Here is the text of the file. Stop/Start the backup exec agent. /opt/VRTSralus/bin VRTSralus.init stop VRTSralus.init start Make sure you are on BE2010 R3 for both server and agent. This is not recommended for database servers and changing the novell-release file could have other implications. But this worked for me.

Novell Open Enterprise Server 2.0.3 (x86_64)
VERSION = 2.0.3
PATCHLEVEL = 3
BUILD
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tmcgoffin wrote:

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> In case anyone is still trying to get BE2010 to backup NSS volumes in
> OES11... After several support calls to Symantec, the second level
> tech finally offered a work around. Apparently someone at Novell
> came up with this so I don't understand why it isn't easier to find
> the information.


It's difficult to predict what happens by making this change and it's
definitely not anything we can support. That's why we haven't
published this as a TID. We are, however, trying to pressure Symantec
to officially support OES11 and NSS. 🙂

I'm glad you called Symantec though. The more OES11 customers that
call in for this issue the more they'll realize they need to get this
supported ASAP. I encourage others experiencing the issue to also call
Symantec tech support and request escalation.

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jmarton;2193427 wrote:
tmcgoffin wrote:

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> In case anyone is still trying to get BE2010 to backup NSS volumes in
> OES11... After several support calls to Symantec, the second level
> tech finally offered a work around. Apparently someone at Novell
> came up with this so I don't understand why it isn't easier to find
> the information.


It's difficult to predict what happens by making this change and it's
definitely not anything we can support. That's why we haven't
published this as a TID. We are, however, trying to pressure Symantec
to officially support OES11 and NSS. 🙂

I'm glad you called Symantec though. The more OES11 customers that
call in for this issue the more they'll realize they need to get this
supported ASAP. I encourage others experiencing the issue to also call
Symantec tech support and request escalation.

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It also wouldn't hurt to put in an enhancement request. The more communication from customers to Symantec, the more fuel to encourage a true solution.

http://www.symantec.com/connect/backup-and-recovery/ideas
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tmcgoffin wrote:

> IT ALSO WOULDN'T HURT TO PUT IN AN ENHANCEMENT REQUEST. THE MORE
> COMMUNICATION FROM CUSTOMERS TO SYMANTEC, THE MORE FUEL TO ENCOURAGE A
> TRUE SOLUTION.
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> _http://www.symantec.com/connect/backup-and-recovery/ideas_


Thank you very much for sharing that link! Yes, I highly recommend
everyone reading this thread who is using Backup Exec and OES to use
the above URL and suggest Symantec officially support it.

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gleach1;2174116 wrote:
Based on my experience the only backup software i'd even both with is sesam


+ one for Tivoli TSM (in it's favor as being a very solid backup solution). We have a couple of OES11 servers running the 6.2.4 client against TSM Server 5.5 and one TSM 6.3 server. With the xattr NSS option set it is working well. It's not clear if it's officially supported with OES11 (yet)... but as far as we are seeing and have confirmed with restore tests, it is working as it should.

SEP works well from what I've heard and is also a product we are seriously looking into as it has a very vast set of options and seems very stable. Plus we've heard from customers that they are also very happy with support they get when needed (which is a very different story when dealing with IBM).

-Willem
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