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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Read-only rconsole

Is anyone aware of a free utility or a way to configure rconsole (or via NRM) so that it is read-only?
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

We don't really use rconsole.exe. We use the web interface with NRM. Users can see the screens and be able to get to the console and execute commands.

Our helpdesk doesn't have the knowledge or experience with Netware, and I've been leery about this for some time.

Recently, a helpdesk person performed a command that brought the server down, but didn't admit it (of course).

Since I can't control the helpdesk, I should at least be able to control the servers so they are better protected from them.

I hope this helps to clarify things.

Thank you.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

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Maybe more importantly, what data do they need that they cannot get
elsewhere? The usefulness of a read-only console seems, to me, to be
questionable. They can't see which modules are loaded, or change screens,
or do anything presumably except see the black that somebody else could
type in. Maybe you are implying they can change screens so they could see
an already-running instance of 'monitor'.

I don't know of a way to do this but I thought things like OpenWBEM would
provide functionality like this from within iManager. Also depending on
the data they need other tools may be more appropriate, like iMonitor.

Good luck.





lisaldiaz wrote:
> We don't really use rconsole.exe. We use the web interface with NRM.
> Users can see the screens and be able to get to the console and execute
> commands.
>
> Our helpdesk doesn't have the knowledge or experience with Netware, and
> I've been leery about this for some time.
>
> Recently, a helpdesk person performed a command that brought the server
> down, but didn't admit it (of course).
>
> Since I can't control the helpdesk, I should at least be able to
> control the servers so they are better protected from them.
>
> I hope this helps to clarify things.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

Avanti has the ability to have a read-only remote console session, and adrem did have one, until they started charging a lot for it.

I realize that Netware is essentially dead, but I was hoping that someone would have some insight as to an older application that I can't find, or if there's a way to configure NRM to only allow read-only access and/or a way to restrict their access.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

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Perhaps setup a machine (a little VM somewhere) that has access setup to
view whichever console you prefer and a VNC server. Have your helpdesk
types all view it via the VNC client which can easily be setup for
read-only access. It's a work-around of course but it should work, be
cross-platform, and fairly painless.

Good luck.





lisaldiaz wrote:
> Avanti has the ability to have a read-only remote console session, and
> adrem did have one, until they started charging a lot for it.
>
> I realize that Netware is essentially dead, but I was hoping that
> someone would have some insight as to an older application that I can't
> find, or if there's a way to configure NRM to only allow read-only
> access and/or a way to restrict their access.
>
>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

I don't understand. How can they VNC into a machine (yes, we do it here all the time, so I get the concept and application) to access something we don't have?

We currently DO NOT have any commercial software that will allow us to restrict the HelpDesk to read-only for a console connection. We use NRM and they can get to the console screens, click on one, and they are in as if they were admins.

I want to control this by making it read-only. I gave a few examples of commercial software that can do this. I never gave any indication that we own any of them. I simply pointed out that this technology does exist.

If this does not exist in a shareware or freeware version, then that's fine. If NRM itself does not have the ability to restrict access to the console in a RO way, then that's fine, too.

I'm just checking into it.

Thank you.
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear I don't think. What I meant was having a
system that did have NRM or rconj/rconsole or something and which would
have access to view things with full poewr, but then which has a VNC
Server installed on it and lets others connect to see its screen in
read-only mode. Anybody with real access to the machine could still play
as an admin but everybody accessing via VNC is just an onlooker. This
would not let the onlookers change screens, of course, so that may be an
issue if that is expected. I don't know of other solutions though
hopefully others will respond with what has been done in the past.

Good luck.






lisaldiaz wrote:
> I don't understand. How can they VNC into a machine (yes, we do it here
> all the time, so I get the concept and application) to access something
> we don't have?
>
> We currently DO NOT have any commercial software that will allow us to
> restrict the HelpDesk to read-only for a console connection. We use NRM
> and they can get to the console screens, click on one, and they are in
> as if they were admins.
>
> I want to control this by making it read-only. I gave a few examples
> of commercial software that can do this. I never gave any indication
> that we own any of them. I simply pointed out that this technology does
> exist.
>
> If this does not exist in a shareware or freeware version, then that's
> fine. If NRM itself does not have the ability to restrict access to the
> console in a RO way, then that's fine, too.
>
> I'm just checking into it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

I apologize if I misunderstood or wasn't clear either.

Are you saying that I can VNC into a Netware server? I hadn't thought of that, if that's what you meant.

Thank you.
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No, nothing so fancy and instead much uglier. Two boxes:

NetWare (server, of course) running rconag6 or whatever, to be accessed
remotely

Linux/windows box running RConJ/rconsole or a web browser to access NRM on
the NetWare box, running VNC server in read-only mode

Other boxes, helpdesk users, all pointing to Linux/windows VNC server box.

Hopefully that helps. This would probably be a last-resort become it's a
bit convoluted and wouldn't give any control to helpdesk types including
changing screens and that may not be acceptable to you/them.

Good luck.





lisaldiaz wrote:
> I apologize if I misunderstood or wasn't clear either.
>
> Are you saying that I can VNC into a Netware server? I hadn't thought
> of that, if that's what you meant.
>
> Thank you.
>
>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Read-only rconsole

Epiphany - ok, I get it now!

Sometimes I think I was born blonde!

I'll check into that.

Thank you again! I really do appreciate your help!
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