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Wi-Fi

Help Please.......Running XP SP2 with Client 4.91 SP2 on Dell D600 with
Intell ProSet/Wireless Adaptors Software Ver. 9.02.0. Connecting to
Cisco Aironet 1200 AP.. I have to Login workstation only... Wait a
about five mins or so Then log into the network. I want to be able to log
strait into Novell... Any ideas or pointers I can't go with static IP's

Thanks
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Re: Wi-Fi

On 10/18/2005 mark.patterson@lpsb.org wrote:

> Any ideas or pointers I can't go with static IP's


The problem is not with Static vs Dynamic IPs, the problem is that you
need to configure the ProSet client to use Pre-Logon services. I actually
prefer using the Wireless Zero Configuration from WindowsXP as a
wireless client. It allows network connection before a desktop login.


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Re: Wi-Fi

4.91 SP2??


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Re: Wi-Fi

I'm having the same issue...

Win XP Pro SP2 with client 4.91
Dell Latitude D600 with Intel PRO wireless 2200BG (centrino)

How do you configure for pre-logon services? Is it in the wireless
configuration or the novell client configuration?

Thanks in advance!
Steve



Edison Ortiz wrote:
> On 10/18/2005 mark.patterson@lpsb.org wrote:
>
>
>>Any ideas or pointers I can't go with static IP's

>
>
> The problem is not with Static vs Dynamic IPs, the problem is that you
> need to configure the ProSet client to use Pre-Logon services. I actually
> prefer using the Wireless Zero Configuration from WindowsXP as a
> wireless client. It allows network connection before a desktop login.
>
>

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Re: Wi-Fi

To add...
If I disable the wireless adapter in one hardware profile the login is
quick. However, if it's a hardware profile where the wireless adapter is
enabled...it takes 2 minutes until the login box pops up. Is there a way
to set which adapter the client searchs first?

Steve



Steve wrote:
> I'm having the same issue...
>
> Win XP Pro SP2 with client 4.91
> Dell Latitude D600 with Intel PRO wireless 2200BG (centrino)
>
> How do you configure for pre-logon services? Is it in the wireless
> configuration or the novell client configuration?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Steve
>
>
>
> Edison Ortiz wrote:
>
>> On 10/18/2005 mark.patterson@lpsb.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any ideas or pointers I can't go with static IP's

>>
>>
>>
>> The problem is not with Static vs Dynamic IPs, the problem is that you
>> need to configure the ProSet client to use Pre-Logon services. I actually
>> prefer using the Wireless Zero Configuration from WindowsXP as a
>> wireless client. It allows network connection before a desktop login.
>>
>>

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Re: Wi-Fi

On 11/1/2005 Steve wrote:

> Is it in the wireless configuration


Yes and the answer varies depending upon the wireless manufacturer.
Best to ask them for help on this.


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Re: Wi-Fi

On 11/1/2005 Steve wrote:

> Is there a way to set which adapter the client searchs first?


No.

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Re: Wi-Fi

It sounds like you might actually be talking about a different issue
that the original poster in this thread.

The original issue here is that the Novell login dialog could be seen,
but the user must login "Workstation Only" and wait a bit before
attempting to actually login to eDirectory/NetWare.

Your description sounds as though you're observing the issue where you
cannot even _see_ the Novell login dialog until after a longer than
usual delay.

This latter issue has been observed and reported several times, and
unfortunately seems to have several different causes. Having the
Microsoft "Wireless Zero Configuration" service disabled was one
cause, and is described in TID10099173:

After pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL there is a 2 minute delay before the
NWGINA appears. - TID10099173
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10099173.htm

Another poster here attributed this to having ISS (www.iss.net)
software installed, and simply removing and re-installing that product
ended up eliminating the issue.

Note this isn't a matter of the "Novell client trying to connect/use a
specific adapter first". There aren't any connections made or
required in order to simply present the Novell Client login dialog.
(True statement for NT/2000/XP; was a different story on Windows 9x
and earlier.)

Several of the posters to this newsgroup used the Microsoft BootVis
utility and identified that when the "delay" was occurring, there was
a call down into MRXSMB.SYS (redirector Microsoft's Client for
Microsoft Networks) that took 120+ seconds to complete. No idea what
exactly the Microsoft client is doing on waiting on during this time.

Steve <steve@ruzila.com> wrote:

> To add...
> If I disable the wireless adapter in one hardware profile the login is
> quick. However, if it's a hardware profile where the wireless adapter is
> enabled...it takes 2 minutes until the login box pops up. Is there a way
> to set which adapter the client searchs first?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Steve wrote:
> > I'm having the same issue...
> >
> > Win XP Pro SP2 with client 4.91
> > Dell Latitude D600 with Intel PRO wireless 2200BG (centrino)
> >
> > How do you configure for pre-logon services? Is it in the wireless
> > configuration or the novell client configuration?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > Edison Ortiz wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/18/2005 mark.patterson@lpsb.org wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Any ideas or pointers I can't go with static IP's
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The problem is not with Static vs Dynamic IPs, the problem is that you
> >> need to configure the ProSet client to use Pre-Logon services. I actually
> >> prefer using the Wireless Zero Configuration from WindowsXP as a
> >> wireless client. It allows network connection before a desktop login.
> >>
> >>


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Re: Wi-Fi

On 11/1/2005 Alan Adams wrote:

> It sounds like you might actually be talking about a different issue
> that the original poster in this thread.


I thought so too, thanks for jumping in 🙂

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Re: Wi-Fi

Thanks guys for the tips. I do have the M$ zero config turned off and
don't have the MS network client installed. I'll check out the TID and
see if that helps.

Thanks!

Steve



Edison Ortiz wrote:
> On 11/1/2005 Alan Adams wrote:
>
>
>>It sounds like you might actually be talking about a different issue
>>that the original poster in this thread.

>
>
> I thought so too, thanks for jumping in 🙂
>

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Re: Wi-Fi

On 11/2/2005 Steve wrote:

> I'll check out the TID and see if that helps.


Post back with results

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Re: Wi-Fi

Unfortunately the other poster's workaround of reinstalling said
IPS/firewall turned out to be a temporary fix. After a few weeks BootVis
started to show a 65 delay with mrxsmb.sys again even with the software
removed. Until it can be reimaged and being that disabling the Microsoft
client is not enough to prevent its driver from being delayed, removing the
Microsoft client is the current workaround.

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