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Windows 10 Pro Novell Client 2 SP4 (IR4) Primary login optio

I have had a few Windows 10 deployments over the last few weeks and as the end users get use to the new OS one common issue is that after a fresh boot up of the laptop they have to click the Novell client option at the bottom left of the login screen to get both the Novell login as well local workstation login. Otherwise it provides only the local workstation login. They can login once at the desktop but would prefer to have both work at the same time. The install script I use has the Novell login option as the first option for Windows 7 and 8.1.

Am I missing something on my deployment to get this working for 10? Is there an easy push to make my current installs have Novell as primary again?

Thanks

Richard
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Re: Windows 10 Pro Novell Client 2 SP4 (IR4) Primary login optio

rhuhman <rhuhman@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:

> I have had a few Windows 10 deployments over the last few weeks and as
> the end users get use to the new OS one common issue is that after a
> fresh boot up of the laptop they have to click the Novell client option
> at the bottom left of the login screen to get both the Novell login as
> well local workstation login. Otherwise it provides only the local
> workstation login.


What that sounds like to me is that these workstations are
successfully logging into Windows using some credential provider
/other/ than Microsoft's standard password-based credential provider.

When you install the Novell Client, we filter out the Microsoft
password-based credential provider so that you don't get the behaviors
like "all the local Windows accounts are listed on the logon screen",
and instead just get the "Novell Logon" option and -- if someone has
logged in through Novell Client before -- the "last logged on user"
tile that shows whomever logged on last.

Windows remembers what credential provider was last used, and defaults
to having that credential provider selected the next time the logon
screen comes up. Normally, once Novell Client has filtered out the
Microsoft password-based credential provider, that "last used
provider" is no longer available and Windows is happy to default to
the credentials NCCredProvider is presenting.

But if that "previous credential provider used for logon" /is/ still
available (because it wasn't the Microsoft password-based credential
provider), nothing about installing the Novell Client will have
changed Windows' mind about "let me default to the last credential
provider they logged in with", and it will continue to do so
successfully, same as it did before Novell Client was installed.

And there is nothing "wrong" with that, because we do intend to
successfully co-exist with other credential providers. e.g. We would
not have wanted to prevent you from selecting "some other credential
provider instead of NCCredProvider" if you really needed to login with
a different credential provider. But that "other credential provider"
still being available does influence Windows' own logon screen
decisions, too.

I've not tried to "reset" a machine in this manner, but I expect that
the "LastLoggedOnProvider" value you see under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Authentication\LogonUI]
plays into the decision we're talking about here. You might try
blanking out that value before rebooting after the Novell Client
install. Also, report the GUID value it's set to, since that will
identify which specific credential provider they had been logging in
through.

Alan Adams
Client for Open Enterprise Server
Micro Focus
alan.adams@microfocus.com
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