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Yellow Circle with Question Mark on SYS volume?

This morning (Monday of course) I came in to a message from my NW6.5SP3
server saying it was nearly out of space on the SYS volume.

I discovered that for some reason BackupExec 9.1 backed up to the SYS
volume as "back up to disk" rather than to tape. Need to call Veritas.
So I corrected that problem, but in ConsoleOne Servername_SYS and
Servername_Admin are still showing up as yellow circles with a question
mark. Will this repair itself or do i need to do something?

Peter
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NWAdmin32 Same Thing

Peter Jam wrote:

> This morning (Monday of course) I came in to a message from my
> NW6.5SP3 server saying it was nearly out of space on the SYS volume.
>
> I discovered that for some reason BackupExec 9.1 backed up to the SYS
> volume as "back up to disk" rather than to tape. Need to call
> Veritas. So I corrected that problem, but in ConsoleOne
> Servername_SYS and Servername_Admin are still showing up as yellow
> circles with a question mark. Will this repair itself or do i need
> to do something?
>
> Peter


Also the same thing in nwadmin32.
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Hi Peter,

With SYS filling up your NDS was probably corrupted.
First thing you have to do after freeing up some space is do a Health Check
as per
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060600.htm

If doing a dsrepair does not solve the problem, you can delete and recreate
the volume objects using these procedures.
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011981.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10088640.htm
But first make sure your NDS is healthy.

Peter

> This morning (Monday of course) I came in to a message from my NW6.5SP3
> server saying it was nearly out of space on the SYS volume.
>
> I discovered that for some reason BackupExec 9.1 backed up to the SYS
> volume as "back up to disk" rather than to tape. Need to call Veritas.
> So I corrected that problem, but in ConsoleOne Servername_SYS and
> Servername_Admin are still showing up as yellow circles with a question
> mark. Will this repair itself or do i need to do something?
>
> Peter



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Peter vdW wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> With SYS filling up your NDS was probably corrupted.
> First thing you have to do after freeing up some space is do a Health
> Check as per
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060600.htm
>
> If doing a dsrepair does not solve the problem, you can delete and
> recreate the volume objects using these procedures.
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011981.htm
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10088640.htm
> But first make sure your NDS is healthy.
>
> Peter
>
> > This morning (Monday of course) I came in to a message from my
> > NW6.5SP3 server saying it was nearly out of space on the SYS volume.
> >
> > I discovered that for some reason BackupExec 9.1 backed up to the
> > SYS volume as "back up to disk" rather than to tape. Need to call
> > Veritas. So I corrected that problem, but in ConsoleOne
> > Servername_SYS and Servername_Admin are still showing up as yellow
> > circles with a question mark. Will this repair itself or do i need
> > to do something?
> >
> > Peter


Peter:
Rather daunting, but I will give it a try.

thanks,
peter
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> Rather daunting, but I will give it a try.
>


If you feel uncomfortable with this steps don't hesitate to ask.
Is this a single server ?
Before making any changes to the NDS make a backup through iManager - embox.
And you can make a NDS database dump with DSREPAIR -RC and copy this to
local workstation so that Novell can use this to restore NDS in case
something goes wrong.

http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060578.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10093373.htm

Peter


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Peter vdW wrote:

> > Rather daunting, but I will give it a try.
> >

>
> If you feel uncomfortable with this steps don't hesitate to ask.
> Is this a single server ?
> Before making any changes to the NDS make a backup through iManager -
> embox. And you can make a NDS database dump with DSREPAIR -RC and
> copy this to local workstation so that Novell can use this to restore
> NDS in case something goes wrong.
>
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060578.htm
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10093373.htm
>
> Peter


No it is not even the master, but it has all the User Home directories
and "Document Control" on it.
I'll give it a whirl.
Thanks,
peter
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Peter vdW wrote:

> > Rather daunting, but I will give it a try.
> >

>
> If you feel uncomfortable with this steps don't hesitate to ask.
> Is this a single server ?
> Before making any changes to the NDS make a backup through iManager -
> embox. And you can make a NDS database dump with DSREPAIR -RC and
> copy this to local workstation so that Novell can use this to restore
> NDS in case something goes wrong.
>
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060578.htm
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10093373.htm
>
> Peter

PS:
Cannot get iManager running on this server, see my post in
administration tools about tomcat insufficient memory to create heap
source.
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Peter vdW wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> With SYS filling up your NDS was probably corrupted.
> First thing you have to do after freeing up some space is do a Health
> Check as per
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10060600.htm
>
> If doing a dsrepair does not solve the problem, you can delete and
> recreate the volume objects using these procedures.
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/10011981.htm
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10088640.htm
> But first make sure your NDS is healthy.
>
> Peter
>
> > This morning (Monday of course) I came in to a message from my
> > NW6.5SP3 server saying it was nearly out of space on the SYS volume.
> >
> > I discovered that for some reason BackupExec 9.1 backed up to the
> > SYS volume as "back up to disk" rather than to tape. Need to call
> > Veritas. So I corrected that problem, but in ConsoleOne
> > Servername_SYS and Servername_Admin are still showing up as yellow
> > circles with a question mark. Will this repair itself or do i need
> > to do something?
> >
> > Peter


Peter:
Completed the Health Check Portion. The only problem I could see was i
got was:
A sharing violation occured while accessing z:\system\dstrace.dbg.
went into NRM and close the file so I could read it. DSTace.dbg is
attached.

DS is newer (10551.78 vs 10551.29) on this server than the others as it
is NW6.5 SP3 and the others are still at NW6.0SPx

Should I proceed to step 2?


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OK,
First try if you can find the volume object in one of the other servers.
On every server in the replica ring LOAD DSBROWSE -a and browse to the
volume objects.
If you find a good object (object shows class Volume, not class Unknown) you
can resend it to the other servers. See:
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10054705.htm
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10067667.htm
And give some time to replicate.

Peter


> Completed the Health Check Portion. The only problem I could see was i
> got was:
> A sharing violation occured while accessing z:\system\dstrace.dbg.
> went into NRM and close the file so I could read it. DSTace.dbg is
> attached.
>
> DS is newer (10551.78 vs 10551.29) on this server than the others as it
> is NW6.5 SP3 and the others are still at NW6.0SPx
>
> Should I proceed to step 2?
>
>



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Peter:
I will give that a go. The server just rebooted due to an electrical
twitch. Tells me the UPS and or Powerchute is not working. Something
else to fix.

Did I mention that both ConsoleOne and NWADMin32 both show
Admin_servername and servername_SYS_Pool as yellow question marks also??

One thing at a time, right?
Back later,
Peter
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Peter vdW wrote:

> OK,
> First try if you can find the volume object in one of the other
> servers. On every server in the replica ring LOAD DSBROWSE -a and
> browse to the volume objects. If you find a good object (object
> shows class Volume, not class Unknown) you can resend it to the other
> servers. See:
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10054705.htm
> http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10067667.htm
> And give some time to replicate.
>
> Peter
>
>
> > Completed the Health Check Portion. The only problem I could see
> > was i got was:
> > A sharing violation occured while accessing z:\system\dstrace.dbg.
> > went into NRM and close the file so I could read it. DSTace.dbg is
> > attached.
> >
> > DS is newer (10551.78 vs 10551.29) on this server than the others
> > as it is NW6.5 SP3 and the others are still at NW6.0SPx
> >
> > Should I proceed to step 2?
> >
> >


Peter:
18 hours after resending from master and other read write no change. :<
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> 18 hours after resending from master and other read write no change. :<

That should be more than enough time.
Seems like the object is stuck.
So the affected server is the only one that shows the Volumes as Unknown ?
If you have two good replica's of all partitions the safest way to solve
this is to remove the replica of the partition containing the Unknown
objects from the affected server, using C1.
Wait until all servers show the replica is removed from the replica.
Then add back the replica using C1.

BTW, C1 and NWadmin read NDS from one server only, mostly the first server
you attached to or the server that reacts fastest.
You can force C1 to read the Master by starting it with option -forceMaster
(case-sensitive)

Peter


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Peter vdW wrote:

> > 18 hours after resending from master and other read write no
> > change. :<

>
> That should be more than enough time.
> Seems like the object is stuck.
> So the affected server is the only one that shows the Volumes as
> Unknown ? If you have two good replica's of all partitions the
> safest way to solve this is to remove the replica of the partition
> containing the Unknown objects from the affected server, using C1.
> Wait until all servers show the replica is removed from the replica.
> Then add back the replica using C1.
>
> BTW, C1 and NWadmin read NDS from one server only, mostly the first
> server you attached to or the server that reacts fastest. You can
> force C1 to read the Master by starting it with option -forceMaster
> (case-sensitive)
>
> Peter

Peter:
Object Class shows up "unknown" in all three dsbrowses.

Since I have three objects in the same boat, should I do one before the
other?
1. Admin_servername
2. servername_SYS_Pool
3. servername_sys
Peter


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Peter vdW wrote:

> > 18 hours after resending from master and other read write no
> > change. :<

>
> That should be more than enough time.
> Seems like the object is stuck.
> So the affected server is the only one that shows the Volumes as
> Unknown ? If you have two good replica's of all partitions the
> safest way to solve this is to remove the replica of the partition
> containing the Unknown objects from the affected server, using C1.
> Wait until all servers show the replica is removed from the replica.
> Then add back the replica using C1.
>
> BTW, C1 and NWadmin read NDS from one server only, mostly the first
> server you attached to or the server that reacts fastest. You can
> force C1 to read the Master by starting it with option -forceMaster
> (case-sensitive)
>
> Peter


Do you mean for me to follow this TID?
How to Remove a Directory Services Replica from a NetWare Server. -
TID10013087
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?10013087.htm


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