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best product to do backup

I have novell 6 service pack 5.
Which is the best product for doing backup?

Since I have the licence for netware 6.5 :
For netware 6.5, which is the best product for doing backup?

Which are the advantages and disadvantages?

thanks for all

Regards,
Monica
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Re: best product to do backup

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> For netware 6.5, which is the best product for doing backup?


The possible answers to that question might border on religion... You
might as well ask "Should I buy a Saab or a Volvo?" 🙂

If you by "best" mean "cheap", then Sbackup, which is free.

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best product to do backup

For Netware servers I have had a much better experience with Veritas
BackupExec. The ARCserve product for Netware has too many issues with the
Btrieve database. The Veritas product does not use a Btrieve database so
it is much more stable and reliable on a Netware server. ARCserve does a
good job on Windows servers but not with Netware. That is my opinion
after having worked with both products. Cheers !

> I have novell 6 service pack 5.
> Which is the best product for doing backup?
>
> Since I have the licence for netware 6.5 :
> For netware 6.5, which is the best product for doing backup?
>
> Which are the advantages and disadvantages?
>
> thanks for all
>
> Regards,
> Monica


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Re: best product to do backup

If this is a single server environment with modest backup requirements
(say 200G or less), the choice at the no cost level is Sbackup, the
choice at the 'mid cost' level include Backup Exec and Arcserve plus a
few others with less market share.

The 'high cost' backup software would be Syncsort's Backup Express --
better support, HIGHER cost.



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Re: best product to do backup

rguerrah@hotmail.com wrote:
> For Netware servers I have had a much better experience with Veritas
> BackupExec. The ARCserve product for Netware has too many issues with the
> Btrieve database. The Veritas product does not use a Btrieve database so
> it is much more stable and reliable on a Netware server. ARCserve does a
> good job on Windows servers but not with Netware. That is my opinion
> after having worked with both products. Cheers !
>
>> I have novell 6 service pack 5.
>> Which is the best product for doing backup?
>>
>> Since I have the licence for netware 6.5 :
>> For netware 6.5, which is the best product for doing backup?
>>
>> Which are the advantages and disadvantages?
>>
>> thanks for all
>>
>> Regards,
>> Monica

>


Be careful with Veritas, make sure the backup device if fully tested and
supported. I got bit in the a$$ with my new drive. Thier compatibility
list said, basically, "should work, but not tested". Well after weeks
with Veritas engineering, it was decided it was not supported.

HT
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Re: best product to do backup

> Be careful with Veritas, make sure the backup device if fully tested and
> supported. I got bit in the a$$ with my new drive. Thier compatibility
> list said, basically, "should work, but not tested". Well after weeks
> with Veritas engineering, it was decided it was not supported.


That being said, I've not had problems with AIT 1 and 2 drives, or
Ultrium 1, 2 and 3 drives -- or any of the older DAT drives for that
matter.



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Re: best product to do backup

Hi Barry,
If I understand well so the syncsort has higher cost but is it also the
more reliable?
is there demand for Syncsort?

thanks for all
Regards,
Monica

> If this is a single server environment with modest backup requirements
> (say 200G or less), the choice at the no cost level is Sbackup, the
> choice at the 'mid cost' level include Backup Exec and Arcserve plus a
> few others with less market share.
>
> The 'high cost' backup software would be Syncsort's Backup Express --
> better support, HIGHER cost.
>



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> If I understand well so the syncsort has higher cost but is it also the
> more reliable? is there demand for Syncsort?
>

My sense from the Syncsoft users it that it IS more robust. There are
complications in setting it up (you must have a Win2K, XP, or Linux box
for all administration for one thing and there are other foibles that
Syncsort folks get used to), but the support from Syncsort is very good


Frankly, I think for larger network configurations with lots of data,
Syncsort might well be the right solution. I don't know it makes as
much sense with smaller business networks (1 or 2 server) -- which is
where I do my consulting work.


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> > If I understand well so the syncsort has higher cost but is it also
the
> > more reliable? is there demand for Syncsort?
> >

> My sense from the Syncsoft users it that it IS more robust. There are
> complications in setting it up (you must have a Win2K, XP, or Linux box
> for all administration for one thing and there are other foibles that
> Syncsort folks get used to), but the support from Syncsort is very good
>
>
> Frankly, I think for larger network configurations with lots of data,
> Syncsort might well be the right solution. I don't know it makes as
> much sense with smaller business networks (1 or 2 server) -- which is
> where I do my consulting work.


If I have understand , I must choose between arcserve and backup exec.
So , for smaller business networks ( 2or 3 server) what do you suggest me:
Arcserve or Backup Exec?
Now I have novell 6 service pack 5 so which is the most reliable ?

Since I have also the free upgrade to 6.5 ( I don't know when I 'll do it
perhaps between a year ) , in this case which is the most reliable?

SyncSort is supported for netware 6.5?
whatever I 'll request the price of Syncsort.

thank for your patience.
Regards
Monica

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Re: best product to do backup

Is Sbackup compatible with novell 6 sp5?

where I can find it?

thanks for all
Regards,Monica
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Re: best product to do backup

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> Is Sbackup compatible with novell 6 sp5?
>
> where I can find it?
>

It is always available and installed. It is covered in the manual.
Basically you load NWTAPE and then SBCON to configure.

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> If I have understand , I must choose between arcserve and backup exec.

There are other small network backup software options, but Arcserve and
Backup Exec have the largest proportion for midrange cost backup
software.

Do you plan to backup all three servers -- to one backup device (over
the wire) -- or with backup devices on each server?

How much storage capacity are you looking to backup (for each server)?

> Since I have also the free upgrade to 6.5 ( I don't know when I 'll do it
> perhaps between a year ) , in this case which is the most reliable?


Some say ArcServe some say Backup Exec -- each have their advocates.
Both support NW 6.0 and 6.5.

>
> SyncSort is supported for netware 6.5?
> whatever I 'll request the price of Syncsort.


Yes. You will find in any case, if you are seeking to back up three
servers that the cost (for any of these software products) is quite a
bit higher than for a single server.
>


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Re: best product to do backup

What type of tape backup device are you planning to use?



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Re: best product to do backup

> What type of tape backup device are you planning to use?
>


I'd like to buy a new server with tape PV 110T 200GB LTO2, where I 'll
install novell 6 service pack 5.

Thanks
Regards,
Monica
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> I'd like to buy a new server with tape PV 110T 200GB LTO2, where I 'll
> install novell 6 service pack 5.
>

OK -- Sbackup should work if you have no budget for backup software. I
have run Backup Exec 9.1 without problems on LTO2 drives (and BE 9.2
with LTO 3 drives for that matter).

Is this backup device going to support the other servers (over the
wire)?



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