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is iFolder on NETWARE a DEAD DUCK??

Any news ???

Our IT manager WON'T approve Linux just yet as its not quite ready.
(I have to say I totally agree)


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Re: is iFolder on NETWARE a DEAD DUCK??

Let me ask again...

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
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MartinS wrote:
> Any news ???
>
> Our IT manager WON'T approve Linux just yet as its not quite ready.
> (I have to say I totally agree)
>
>

Do you mean iFolder 3.0? iFolder 2.1.6 came out wih the latest SP.

Cheers,
Shawn
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Shawn Sijnstra,
> Do you mean iFolder 3.0?
>

I assume so. Now, we need more leverage here, I would suggest that all
customers asking about Mono on NetWare be encouraged to submit an
enhancement request.

http://support.novell.com/enhancement/

Also, talk to your regional salesoffice. IFolder 3.0 for NW needs Mono
on NW. Mono on NW is not dead, but no enough resources is put into it.
We need to change that!

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement

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In article <_3_Se.2438$Ej2.372@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
MartinS@nospam.com says...
> Any news ???
>
> Our IT manager WON'T approve Linux just yet as its not quite ready.
> (I have to say I totally agree)


Hm. Care to elaborate? While I could agree with a statement that Linux
isn't ready to replace all of NetWare's functionality (DDNS anyone?), I
wouldn't mind a Linux server doing iFolder somewhere in a quiet corner
of my network.

-Bert
www.bertplat.nl
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Bert Plat wrote:
> In article <_3_Se.2438$Ej2.372@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
> MartinS@nospam.com says...
>
>>Any news ???
>>
>>Our IT manager WON'T approve Linux just yet as its not quite ready.
>>(I have to say I totally agree)

>
>
> Hm. Care to elaborate? While I could agree with a statement that Linux
> isn't ready to replace all of NetWare's functionality (DDNS anyone?), I
> wouldn't mind a Linux server doing iFolder somewhere in a quiet corner
> of my network.
>
> -Bert
> www.bertplat.nl


Agreed..... we'll be doing OES Linux with ifolder 3.0 in Netware
environments. I don't get the reluctance to move to linux myself, but I
have to wonder if most environments aren't ready for linux, instead of
the other way around.


Jon Johnston
Creative Business Solutions
IBM, Microsoft, Novell/Suse and Sophos Consulting
952-544-1108
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Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Shawn Sijnstra,
>
>>Do you mean iFolder 3.0?
>>

>
> I assume so. Now, we need more leverage here, I would suggest that all
> customers asking about Mono on NetWare be encouraged to submit an
> enhancement request.
>
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement/
>
> Also, talk to your regional salesoffice. IFolder 3.0 for NW needs Mono
> on NW. Mono on NW is not dead, but no enough resources is put into it.
> We need to change that!

To be honest, I'd be happy with iFolder 2.x working on NW6.5. At the moment,
it erases all of the files within iFolders stored on the server every time
it needs to verify itself. Once you bounce it back to NW6.0 it rebuilds
correctly again. This happens with 2.1.5 and 2.1.6. I guess that's another
reason why some might ask if it's a dead duck.

Cheers,
Shawn
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Shawn Sijnstra,
> To be honest, I'd be happy with iFolder 2.x working on NW6.5. At the moment,
> it erases all of the files within iFolders stored on the server every time
> it needs to verify itself. Once you bounce it back to NW6.0 it rebuilds
> correctly again. This happens with 2.1.5 and 2.1.6. I guess that's another
> reason why some might ask if it's a dead duck.
>

Let me ask Novell about that problem.

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement

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Agree, use Linux when it does a job better then Netware and the other
way around. We'll see what the future brings us:)
I started to use Linux for iFolder 3 and other web services. Despite
we have NAMP on Netware, still not all is possible what can be done on
Linux. As long as not all stuff on Netware including 3th party is
availabe on Linux, Netware will be around.

Sebastiaan Veld
Wannit BV
www.wannit.nl

>In article <_3_Se.2438$Ej2.372@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
>MartinS@nospam.com says...
>> Any news ???
>>
>> Our IT manager WON'T approve Linux just yet as its not quite ready.
>> (I have to say I totally agree)

>
>Hm. Care to elaborate? While I could agree with a statement that Linux
>isn't ready to replace all of NetWare's functionality (DDNS anyone?), I
>wouldn't mind a Linux server doing iFolder somewhere in a quiet corner
>of my network.
>
>-Bert
>www.bertplat.nl


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Shawn Sijnstra,
> it erases all of the files within iFolders stored on the server every time
> it needs to verify itself
>

Novell wants to know if you mean:

within iFolders stored on the server every time
it needs to *SYNC* itself*

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

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Any news ?

"Anders Gustafsson" <dalton@nomail.to.me> wrote in message
news:VA.00000f7e.00951468@nomail.to.me...
> Let me ask again...
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>



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Martin,
> Any news ?
>

Not yet.

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

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Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Shawn Sijnstra,
>
> Novell wants to know if you mean:
>
> within iFolders stored on the server every time
> it needs to *SYNC* itself*
>

Hi Anders,

Perhaps the error log file explains the situation better:
09/07/05 13:03:43 iFolder Host OS: NetWare 6.50 Service Pack 3
09/07/05 13:03:43 iFolder Host WebServer: Apache/2.0.54 (NETWARE)
09/07/05 13:04:41 Configured LDAP was found ready to use.
09/07/05 13:04:42 Last session did not shutdown properly!
09/07/05 13:04:42 Checking user accounts...
09/07/05 13:04:42 1/12. Checking sxxxxxxxx/home *************************CCE201F
09/07/05 13:04:42 2/12. Checking xxxxx/home ***********************2D8DFE765
09/07/05 13:04:42 3/12. Checking liang/home ***********************DD5E6A2F2
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 65 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 66 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 67 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 68 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 69 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6a discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6b discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6c discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6d discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6e discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 6f discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 70 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 79 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7a discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7b discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7c discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7d discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7e discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 7f discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 80 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 81 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 82 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 83 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 84 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 85 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 86 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 87 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 88 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 89 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8a discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8b discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8c discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8d discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8e discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 8f discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 90 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 91 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 92 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 93 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 94 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 95 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 96 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 97 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - filemap && file 98 discarded (length mismatch)
09/07/05 13:04:42 liang/home - new databaseId: 431e58ca

which has completely removed the user's ifolder directory from the server.
If I migrate it back to a Netware 6.0 server, it realises nothing is there
and puts everything back.

Cheers,
Shawn
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Shawn Sijnstra,
> Perhaps the error log file explains the situation better:
>

Here is what I got from Novell:

Checked with engineering and they are thinking the same...something
must actually be wrong with the files.... Because that isn't how it
typically works...

I have never seen this defect before. This basically occurs if there is
a mismatch between the length of the files in. The sever then treats it
as corrupt and deletes everything.I shall look into this further to see
if I can find out what might have caused the error.Can you tell me:

Is this the only user facing the problem?
Doesn't his data get synced up again to 6.5 server once it is deleted
on the server side ?
Would it be possible to reset his account on the sever?
Are his files very large files?

- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
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Martin,

It might just be me, but that was pretty offensive, if not downright racial.


Martin Stepanek wrote:
> I'd kiss the Pope's wrinkly old sour kraut butt if Novell would put a
> revived committment into Netware and do things like go 64 bit, create
> some specialty servers like a media server, VOIP, etc...
>
> Part of the reason why MS in past stole the market and Novell lost it,
> is very simple if you look at it. MS created, stole or bought out a
> bunch of specialty products that are "eye catchers". The draw attention
> to their name if for nothing else than smart marketing means. Take
> automanufacturers. They don't really create sports cars for mass sales,
> if that happens great, but even if doesn't they still create them
> because it grabs attention, creates an audience. If we've got the fast
> sports car or coolest and the world knows it it creates a "perception"
> in peoples mind that they are king and dominant, rock solid so on....
>
> Linux is great and all but I still like Netware and hope they never let
> it die. Before they let it die, let it go open source!!
>
> Martin Stepanek, CNE
> IMAGE-TECHNOLOGY
> Barrie, Ontario Canada
> http://www.image-technology.com
>
> >>> Anders Gustafsson<dalton@nomail.to.me> 06/09/2005 2:49:26 am >>>

> Shawn Sijnstra,
> > Do you mean iFolder 3.0?
> >

> I assume so. Now, we need more leverage here, I would suggest that all
> customers asking about Mono on NetWare be encouraged to submit an
> enhancement request.
>
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement/
>
> Also, talk to your regional salesoffice. IFolder 3.0 for NW needs Mono
> on NW. Mono on NW is not dead, but no enough resources is put into it.
> We need to change that!
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
>
>

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