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oes11 & smt

Anyone here migrate (or move smt services) from a sles10sp4/oes2sp3 (my
current server) to oes11?

Pointers? Docs? Gotchas? Is it even worth doing?

Any info anyone willing to share would be appreciated.

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Stevo;2209218 wrote:
Anyone here migrate (or move smt services) from a sles10sp4/oes2sp3 (my
current server) to oes11?

Pointers? Docs? Gotchas? Is it even worth doing?

Any info anyone willing to share would be appreciated.

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Stevo


Me personally, I try to keep SMT on "pure" SLES. Less things to go wrong, IMO.

That way, no eDir, etc. to worry about. If I need to put something on it directly, I just WinSCP it (not the fastest, but I rarely need to use it as a file server). I DO also use my SMT server as an NFS install server, but I can easily just use the Firefox on the SLES 11 SMT server and grab the .ISO from Novell's site anyway.
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kjhurni sounds like they 'said':

> Me personally, I try to keep SMT on "pure" SLES. Less things to go
> wrong, IMO.
>
> That way, no eDir, etc. to worry about. If I need to put something on
> it directly, I just WinSCP it (not the fastest, but I rarely need to
> use it as a file server). I DO also use my SMT server as an NFS
> install server, but I can easily just use the Firefox on the SLES 11
> SMT server and grab the .ISO from Novell's site anyway.


So my response to kjhurni's comment is...

Where can a person even *find* smt for oes11? I've been searching
Novell's site w/ no luck.

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Stevo;2209330 wrote:
kjhurni sounds like they 'said':

> Me personally, I try to keep SMT on "pure" SLES. Less things to go
> wrong, IMO.
>
> That way, no eDir, etc. to worry about. If I need to put something on
> it directly, I just WinSCP it (not the fastest, but I rarely need to
> use it as a file server). I DO also use my SMT server as an NFS
> install server, but I can easily just use the Firefox on the SLES 11
> SMT server and grab the .ISO from Novell's site anyway.


So my response to kjhurni's comment is...

Where can a person even *find* smt for oes11? I've been searching
Novell's site w/ no luck.

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Stevo


This is another "fun" one.

SMT is considered a SUSE product, so it's on the SUSE website, although I couldn't get the DOWNLOAD to work on SUSE, so I had to go to download.novell.com and get it, but the DOCS are on suse's site.

They may have fixed that by now, but I'm not sure.

--nope, still haven't fixed it yet.

So you go to download.novell.com and look for subscription management tool
There is no "build" for OES11. Technically it's for SLES11 SP1 and I think the latest one is for SLES11 SP3
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Ok, found it, nevermind. <G>


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On 26/07/2012 15:36, kjhurni wrote:

> There is no "build" for OES11. Technically it's for SLES11 SP1 and I
> think the latest one is for SLES11 SP3


Ahem since SLES11 SP3 is but only a twinkle in its mother's eyes, the
latest one is for SLES11 SP2[1] (the latest SLES11 release) but to
install on an OES11 server (which I wouldn't recommend - use a dedicated
SLES non-OES server instead) use the SMT11 release[2] (there was no
SMT11 SP1 version - see [3]).

HTH.

[1] http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Ex9AtDC9uBs~
[2] http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=5qJ9eEidDzs~
[3] http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7006095
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Ok, so how about this? If I were to upgrade my current SMT box to
sles11, I'm guessing I'd need to install the newer version of SMT.

I'm wondering if it would be easier this route, or to just build
another server, get SMT working, move my current servers to it, and get
rid of the old one.

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Stevo;2209497 wrote:
Ok, so how about this? If I were to upgrade my current SMT box to
sles11, I'm guessing I'd need to install the newer version of SMT.

I'm wondering if it would be easier this route, or to just build
another server, get SMT working, move my current servers to it, and get
rid of the old one.

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Yes, you are correct that you'd need to reinstall SMT. There was a cool solutions guide or something out there on how to update SMT from SLES11 to SLES11 SP1, although I didn't get it to work reliably, so I just blew it away and started from scratch.

Simon's correct as well. SMT was never for SLES11 SP1 (stupid "1" is next to the "2" key).
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kjhurni sounds like they 'said':

> Yes, you are correct that you'd need to reinstall SMT. There was a
> cool solutions guide or something out there on how to update SMT from
> SLES11 to SLES11 SP1, although I didn't get it to work reliably, so I
> just blew it away and started from scratch.
>
> Simon's correct as well. SMT was never for SLES11 SP1 (stupid "1" is
> next to the "2" key).


So my response to kjhurni's comment is...

I decided to just build a sles11sp1 server & put SMT on it. Wow, SMT
on sles11 is a bit easier than on sles10.

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Stevo;2209553 wrote:
kjhurni sounds like they 'said':

> Yes, you are correct that you'd need to reinstall SMT. There was a
> cool solutions guide or something out there on how to update SMT from
> SLES11 to SLES11 SP1, although I didn't get it to work reliably, so I
> just blew it away and started from scratch.
>
> Simon's correct as well. SMT was never for SLES11 SP1 (stupid "1" is
> next to the "2" key).


So my response to kjhurni's comment is...

I decided to just build a sles11sp1 server & put SMT on it. Wow, SMT
on sles11 is a bit easier than on sles10.

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Stevo


Yes, it's actually not too bad. Docs could be a little better (I did submit doc feedback) if you need to adjust things like have a dedicated mount point for your repo and point SMT over to it.

There's also a TID somewhere that'll tell you how to configure your SMT Server (ie: the SLES server itself that's running SMT) to consume its own updates (no sense in having the SLES server go to NCC and patch itself when SMT has already downloaded the patches).
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kjhurni sounds like they 'said':

> There's also a TID somewhere that'll tell you how to configure your
> SMT Server (ie: the SLES server itself that's running SMT) to consume
> its own updates (no sense in having the SLES server go to NCC and
> patch itself when SMT has already downloaded the patches).


So my response to kjhurni's comment is...

You happen to know this tid #? I know when I set up my current SMT
box, I set it to update from itself, and that really borked things up.
All of a sudden it wouldn't pull updates from NCC, took quite a bit to
get things back to 'normal' IIRC.

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Hey, so could a person copy the update folder contents from the current
SMT box to the new one (ie thru scp), thus helping w/ the initial
mirroring?


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