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offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

I want to upgrade a server from OES 2 SP0 to SP2 using the offline
upgrade method.

I've tested it with a server (VMWare session) without NSS volumes, that
worked fine.

As soon as the server (VMWare session set back to the beginning) get's a
NSS volume (on a separate disk, therefor *not* the ugly case with EVMS
on the boot disk!), the YAST upgrade does not find the boot partition
anymore. The partition list is just empty (in opposite to the first
test, when it listed the boot partition only). I can check the "show all
partitions" checkbox and after that I get a list, where some of the
partitions are listed twice: my original partitions "/dev/sda1" and
"/dev/sda3" (which is /boot and /), but also a "/dev/evms/sda1" and
"/dev/evms/sda3". These evms-partitions do not exist when the server is
booted regulary and therefor seem to be a result of a faulty partition
detection of the installation program. Also shown is a partition
"/dev/sdb1" for the NSS volume (shouldn't this be detected as an evms
managed partition!?).

Documentation says to select the partition with "evms" in its name, but
this does not work at all (and makes no sense to me, because the sys
disk partitions are not managed by evms).

Selecting the /dev/sda3 partition instead does allow the install to
proceed (but fails to mount /dev/sdb1, but I ignored that, because this
nss partition is not necessary for the upgrade).

But after the first reboot (during install), the system does not start
anymore. It does not find the / partition (I guess) and looking at
/etc/fstab makes clear why: all /dev/sdbax partitions have been changed
to /dev/sdbx!

After changing this back to /dev/sdax and reboot, the install continues,
but later on fails to upgrade eDir. During bootup I can see several
error messages from ipfilters etc., maybe the install messed up the
network card configuration also.

After all; a whole mess and no working server. Therefor: how to upgrade
a server with nss volumes (again: no evms on sys disk, just lvm)?

Thanks in advance!
Frank
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Sounds like you have the EVMS partition on the same disk. Is this the case? If so, then it probably has a path of /dev/evms/sda1 or something like that. Is that the point where you are failing? If both are true then modify the path to remove evms from the path. It it is known issue and is documented. If not then sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

> Sounds like you have the EVMS partition on the same disk. Is this the
> case? If so, then it probably has a path of /dev/evms/sda1 or something
> like that. Is that the point where you are failing? If both are true
> then modify the path to remove evms from the path. It it is known issue
> and is documented. If not then sorry for the misunderstanding.


No, EVMS is not on the system disk. At least not as far as I had any
influence on it. I've installed the system by using the system disk only
and after the OS was installed completely, I have added the second disk
and used it to create a NSS volume. Therefor, if there is no automatic
change in the background, the system disk should be managed by LVM only.

This is the current fstab:

/dev/sda3 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto noauto,user,sync 0 0

I have a system with EVMS on the system disk (has an NSS volume on the
system disk), there fstab looks like:

/dev/evms/lvm/system/sys_lx / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/evms/sda1 /boot ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/evms/lvm/system/swap swap swap pri=42 0 0

Therefor in my opinion the system I try to upgrade does *not* have EVMS
managed system partitions. Am I correct?

In addition: grub.lst shows "root=/dev/sda3" for the root volume,
whereas the other system (the one with EVMS on the same disk) shows
"root=/dev/evms/lvm/system/sys_lx" instead. Again a proof for me that
the system disk of the first system is not managed by evms.


But what is confusing me: when I take a look into evmsgui, all volumes
(including the sda1 to sda3) are displayed as /dev/evms/-volumes (Plugin
is DosSegMgr)! Does that mean that EVMS did indeed take control of these
volumes?? Why!? Or is it just a wrong display of evmsgui?

Thanks in advance,
Frank
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

You don't have it on the same disk if you didn't specifically put it on the same disk. And the mapping that you are seeing is normal. That is how NSS displays the mounts is through /dev/evms/.... Don't confuse this with the actual mount point under /media/nss or whatever you specified. This is just how NSS lists the devices.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

> You don't have it on the same disk if you didn't specifically put it on
> the same disk. And the mapping that you are seeing is normal. That is
> how NSS displays the mounts is through /dev/evms/.... Don't confuse this
> with the actual mount point under /media/nss or whatever you specified.
> This is just how NSS lists the devices.


Ok. Vexing, but ok.

But any idea how I can perform the update install without messing up the
system? The install program (booted from SLES10SP3-CD) can not mount the
'evms-version' of the root volume, whereas selecting the non-evms-
version creates a system that is not ok anymore (as described in my
first posting).

Frank
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails


> I want to upgrade a server from OES 2 SP0 to SP2 using the offline
> upgrade method.
>
> I've tested it with a server (VMWare session) without NSS volumes, that
> worked fine.
>
> As soon as the server (VMWare session set back to the beginning) get's a
> NSS volume (on a separate disk, therefor *not* the ugly case with EVMS
> on the boot disk!), the YAST upgrade does not find the boot partition
> anymore. The partition list is just empty (in opposite to the first
> test, when it listed the boot partition only). I can check the "show all
> partitions" checkbox and after that I get a list, where some of the
> partitions are listed twice: my original partitions "/dev/sda1" and
> "/dev/sda3" (which is /boot and /), but also a "/dev/evms/sda1" and
> "/dev/evms/sda3". These evms-partitions do not exist when the server is
> booted regulary and therefor seem to be a result of a faulty partition
> detection of the installation program. Also shown is a partition
> "/dev/sdb1" for the NSS volume (shouldn't this be detected as an evms
> managed partition!?).
>
> Documentation says to select the partition with "evms" in its name, but
> this does not work at all (and makes no sense to me, because the sys
> disk partitions are not managed by evms).
>
> Selecting the /dev/sda3 partition instead does allow the install to
> proceed (but fails to mount /dev/sdb1, but I ignored that, because this
> nss partition is not necessary for the upgrade).
>
> But after the first reboot (during install), the system does not start
> anymore. It does not find the / partition (I guess) and looking at
> /etc/fstab makes clear why: all /dev/sdbax partitions have been changed
> to /dev/sdbx!
>
> After changing this back to /dev/sdax and reboot, the install continues,
> but later on fails to upgrade eDir. During bootup I can see several
> error messages from ipfilters etc., maybe the install messed up the
> network card configuration also.
>
> After all; a whole mess and no working server. Therefor: how to upgrade
> a server with nss volumes (again: no evms on sys disk, just lvm)?


Anyone having an idea regading this problem? Anybody having upgraded a
server with NSS volumes from OES 2 SP0 to SP2 ?

Thanks in advance,
Frank
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DLocke Absent Member.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Frank Langner;1912857 wrote:

> I want to upgrade a server from OES 2 SP0 to SP2 using the offline
> upgrade method.
>
> I've tested it with a server (VMWare session) without NSS volumes, that
> worked fine.
>
> As soon as the server (VMWare session set back to the beginning) get's a
> NSS volume (on a separate disk, therefor *not* the ugly case with EVMS
> on the boot disk!), the YAST upgrade does not find the boot partition
> anymore. The partition list is just empty (in opposite to the first
> test, when it listed the boot partition only). I can check the "show all
> partitions" checkbox and after that I get a list, where some of the
> partitions are listed twice: my original partitions "/dev/sda1" and
> "/dev/sda3" (which is /boot and /), but also a "/dev/evms/sda1" and
> "/dev/evms/sda3". These evms-partitions do not exist when the server is
> booted regulary and therefor seem to be a result of a faulty partition
> detection of the installation program. Also shown is a partition
> "/dev/sdb1" for the NSS volume (shouldn't this be detected as an evms
> managed partition!?).
>
> Documentation says to select the partition with "evms" in its name, but
> this does not work at all (and makes no sense to me, because the sys
> disk partitions are not managed by evms).
>
> Selecting the /dev/sda3 partition instead does allow the install to
> proceed (but fails to mount /dev/sdb1, but I ignored that, because this
> nss partition is not necessary for the upgrade).
>
> But after the first reboot (during install), the system does not start
> anymore. It does not find the / partition (I guess) and looking at
> /etc/fstab makes clear why: all /dev/sdbax partitions have been changed
> to /dev/sdbx!
>
> After changing this back to /dev/sdax and reboot, the install continues,
> but later on fails to upgrade eDir. During bootup I can see several
> error messages from ipfilters etc., maybe the install messed up the
> network card configuration also.
>
> After all; a whole mess and no working server. Therefor: how to upgrade
> a server with nss volumes (again: no evms on sys disk, just lvm)?


Anyone having an idea regading this problem? Anybody having upgraded a
server with NSS volumes from OES 2 SP0 to SP2 ?

Thanks in advance,
Frank


Yes, I am seeing the same issue as yourself. However I do have EVMS and NSS running on the same system disk. A mistake I made when I initially setup OES2 on my first few servers. I am working through a process to upgrade from SLES 10 SP1 / OES2 FCS == to ==> SLES 10 SP3 / OES2 SP2. To upgrade the SLES piece, I had to remove the /evms from the path in the /etc/fstab as noted by an earlier poster. This way the update can find the /boot partition and install the necessary updates. After the SLES is updated, I changed the /etc/fstab back to include /evms in the path. The SLES upgrade was then complete.

I am now working through the OES2 upgrade part of it. I believe it fails when trying to create the NSS eDirectory object <servername>admin and I think it does this because the object already exists in eDirectory. I am not sure why it's trying to re-create it, but I think it is. When you get to the OES2 part of the upgrade, if you scroll down the list, you will usually see that NSS requires more configuration, it is in red letters.

Anyway, this is where I am at now and will keep you updated on my progress. I am going to try a) a different NSS object name and/or b) delete the original eDirectory object prior to the NSS part of the upgrade.

I was having a pile of issues in the beginning because of bad media. From now on I will verify the MD5 checksum of all ISO files I download from Novell, and then run the 'Check Media' option prior to upgrade / install - to ensure my media is good.

I will attempt the upgrade on a system with an NSS volume that is NOT using EVMS and let you know how that turns out too. I do know that I've installed SLES 10 SP3 / OES2 SP2 directly from the media (my good media 😉 on a new server, and it worked fine.

I am glad there is someone else in this boat!
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

> I will attempt the upgrade on a system with an NSS volume that is NOT
> using EVMS and let you know how that turns out too. I do know that I've
> installed SLES 10 SP3 / OES2 SP2 directly from the media (my good media
> 😉 on a new server, and it worked fine.
>
> I am glad there is someone else in this boat!


Glad to hear that I am not the only one having this issue. 🙂 I already
raised a SR on this, but so far no useful response from Novell at all.
😞

I keep you updated.

Frank
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Frank Langner wrote:
>> I will attempt the upgrade on a system with an NSS volume that is NOT
>> using EVMS and let you know how that turns out too. I do know that I've
>> installed SLES 10 SP3 / OES2 SP2 directly from the media (my good media
>> 😉 on a new server, and it worked fine.
>>
>> I am glad there is someone else in this boat!

>
> Glad to hear that I am not the only one having this issue. 🙂 I already
> raised a SR on this, but so far no useful response from Novell at all.
> 😞
>
> I keep you updated.
>
> Frank

Yup I am toast 70% through the install. I now have a split kernel. I am
just wiping it out and starting from scratch and reinstall an eDirectory
server on OES after a crash scenario.
Dumb EVMS !
I still have one more server to upgrade in this scenario so I still need
to figger out what the EVMS issue really is.
Cheers
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

In article <sQr4n.4786$q93.935@kovat.provo.novell.com>, DrumDude@no-
mx.forums.novell.com says...
> Yup I am toast 70% through the install. I now have a split kernel. I am
> just wiping it out and starting from scratch and reinstall an eDirectory
> server on OES after a crash scenario.
> Dumb EVMS !
> I still have one more server to upgrade in this scenario so I still need
> to figger out what the EVMS issue really is.
> Cheers


If possible, please raise an SR on this issue. Maybe it helps when they
see that there are multiple persons having this issue. But so far,
assistance from "world class support" is very very poor.

Did you install all available online updates for your current platform
before you tried to perform the offline upgrade to SP2? This is a test
support wants me to do, but I can not because my test server does not
allow me to register my new activation codes (the next very annoying
problem).
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Same problem. One identical server went via move_to_oes_sp1 and then to OES 2 SP2a SLES 10 SP3. This did not have the problem and is now OK.

Short post as lost all of first due to 'security token' error and not writing it all again.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

> Same problem. One identical server went via move_to_oes_sp1 and then to
> OES 2 SP2a SLES 10 SP3. This did not have the problem and is now OK.


Based on the SR, Novell will publish a fix for the problem within the
next few days. Will be a Driver Update Disk that has to be used in
conjunction with the original SLES10SP3 boot media. There's a bug in
hwinfo causing the issue.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Frank Langner;1935798 wrote:
> Same problem. One identical server went via move_to_oes_sp1 and then to
> OES 2 SP2a SLES 10 SP3. This did not have the problem and is now OK.


Based on the SR, Novell will publish a fix for the problem within the
next few days. Will be a Driver Update Disk that has to be used in
conjunction with the original SLES10SP3 boot media. There's a bug in
hwinfo causing the issue.


Luckily I stumbled upon this, we are about to update from OES2 to OES2SP2.. Have to wait for the update.

Thomas
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

Frank Langner;1935798 wrote:
Based on the SR, Novell will publish a fix for the problem within the
next few days. Will be a Driver Update Disk that has to be used in
conjunction with the original SLES10SP3 boot media. There's a bug in
hwinfo causing the issue.


Could you PM me your SR# so I can ask Novell for more details on this.
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Re: offline upgrade to OES SP2 fails

> Could you PM me your SR# so I can ask Novell for more details on this.

I would, but it seems I'm to dump to translate your address into a
proper email address... 🙂
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