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"Resizing" volumes/partitions

Under Netware 6, I am running out of space on one volume and have space
available on another. So in essence, I want to reduce the size of one
volume and add that space to the other.

What is the best way to go about this? Am I stuck with backing up the
data, deleting the existing volume, and then re-creating it and
restoring the data?

If there is no functionality within Netware to resize, is it possible to
use any partitioning program (if so, which?) to resize the partitions?

Any suggestions or, better yet, step-by-step walkthrough, would be
GREATLY appreciated. Also, I'm wondering if it's advisable to do some
sort of maintenance first to ensure file & disk integrity.

Thanks.


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ataubman Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

There is nothing in NetWare to shrink partitions, no.

The big question is, are these NSS or NWFS ? If the former, Portlock are
your only port of call. If the latter, then there are a few other
options such as Ontrack, Partition Magic, and so on..

But no matter what you use you must have tested backups first. There is
always potential data loss.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

Andrew C Taubman wrote:
> There is nothing in NetWare to shrink partitions, no.
>
> The big question is, are these NSS or NWFS ? If the former, Portlock are
> your only port of call. If the latter, then there are a few other
> options such as Ontrack, Partition Magic, and so on..
>
> But no matter what you use you must have tested backups first. There is
> always potential data loss.



The volume I want to decrease in size doesn't have any critical data,
but the one I want to increase has the Groupwise database (so obviously
is critical.)

I haven't done much w/Novell in quite some time, so please tell me if
this is the right process to do this without one of the above utilities,
or if I'm going about it wrong or mis-remembering:

- Move all files off the volume I want to decrease
- Delete the volume
- Delete the pool
- Create new pool of same name but smaller size
- Create second pool of new name
- Create new volume of same name as the one I deleted
- Associate the pool now of smaller size
- Restore the files to the now-smaller volume
- Add the new pool to the volume I want to increase in size (which
increases the volume size (?))


Is that it, or am I completely off base?

And is there any maintenance (other than verifications of backups etc.)
that I should be doing before or after any of this?

Thanks, and apologies for the simplistic nature of this, but I don't
even get near Netware much any more & am completely out of touch, but
this is a bit of urgency.

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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

De,
> Is that it, or am I completely off base?
>

That seems about right. Just make sure that you have preferably two
verified backups, just in case.

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> De,
>> Is that it, or am I completely off base?
>>

> That seems about right. Just make sure that you have preferably two
> verified backups, just in case.
>
> - Anders Gustafsson (Sysop)
> The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)


I'm not understanding or doing something, so it's not working.

I deleted the existing volume, and then deleted the associated pool.
That leaves me with a 12.4GB NSS partition that is not associated with
any pool.

I was thinking I could create two pools on this partition, but maybe I
have that all wrong? Using Console1, if I go to NSS Pools, I can click
"New" and put in the name to recreate the (smaller) parition, then on
the next screen I have a checkbox one item showing, and if I check the
box, it shows

Used Storage Available
12622 NSS-M:0x22-1 0

(If I don't check the box, the amount in Used moves to Available.)

I thought I should be able to edit the "12622" in the Used column, but
it doesn't let me change it in any way I can try (i.e. delete, just type
in a number, etc.)

I get a very similar situation if I take the pool I'd like to expand and
click "Increase Size" instead.

What do I need to do in order to modify that number, do I need to delete
the partition and will it create a new one if I create a new pool?

Thanks for your help.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

DE wrote:
> Anders Gustafsson wrote:
>> De,
>>> Is that it, or am I completely off base?
>>>

>> That seems about right. Just make sure that you have preferably two
>> verified backups, just in case.
>>
>> - Anders Gustafsson (Sysop)
>> The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

>
> I'm not understanding or doing something, so it's not working.
>
> I deleted the existing volume, and then deleted the associated pool.
> That leaves me with a 12.4GB NSS partition that is not associated with
> any pool.
>
> I was thinking I could create two pools on this partition, but maybe I
> have that all wrong? Using Console1, if I go to NSS Pools, I can click
> "New" and put in the name to recreate the (smaller) parition, then on
> the next screen I have a checkbox one item showing, and if I check the
> box, it shows
>
> Used Storage Available
> 12622 NSS-M:0x22-1 0
>
> (If I don't check the box, the amount in Used moves to Available.)
>
> I thought I should be able to edit the "12622" in the Used column, but
> it doesn't let me change it in any way I can try (i.e. delete, just type
> in a number, etc.)
>
> I get a very similar situation if I take the pool I'd like to expand and
> click "Increase Size" instead.
>
> What do I need to do in order to modify that number, do I need to delete
> the partition and will it create a new one if I create a new pool?
>
> Thanks for your help.



addendum to this, even though the pool and volume no longer show in C1,
when I go under "admin_<servername>" and pools or volumes, they -do-
still show. And I did purge the volume I deleted, so it doesn't show in
NSS management.


thanks again.
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snidelydev Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

You might have better luck -- or maybe better control -- by using NSSMU instead of Console1.

/dps

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

snidelydev wrote:
> You might have better luck -- or maybe better control -- by using NSSMU
> instead of Console1.
>
> /dps
>
>

NSSMU shows the volume gone, but the pool still there with a status
"unknown". Won't let me (re-)delete it either.

Is my only option going to be to get rid of the partition itself? Will
that even work to resolve this?

Or is there some forced "repair" or something that I should do in order
to get the pool to properly delete?

Thanks.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

DE wrote:
> snidelydev wrote:
>> You might have better luck -- or maybe better control -- by using NSSMU
>> instead of Console1.
>>
>> /dps
>>
>>

> NSSMU shows the volume gone, but the pool still there with a status
> "unknown". Won't let me (re-)delete it either.
>
> Is my only option going to be to get rid of the partition itself? Will
> that even work to resolve this?
>
> Or is there some forced "repair" or something that I should do in order
> to get the pool to properly delete?
>
> Thanks.



BTW, neither NSS option (verify, rebuild) works: error code status 20828

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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

snidelydev wrote:
> You might have better luck -- or maybe better control -- by using NSSMU
> instead of Console1.
>
> /dps
>
>

OK, thanks ... scratch all that, it fixed itself after I loaded NSSNW5C
and then re-started the server.

Thanks to all for the assistance; it was messy but non-catastrophic,
and I was able to expand the needed pool and the volume did
automatically adjust.

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snidelydev Absent Member.
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Re: "Resizing" volumes/partitions

Glad to hear it all got straightened out!

Sometimes those patches can be deferred, and sometimes not ;-}

/dps

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