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Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

We're having some issues with ours. Anyone know much about them? : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Drinking or Lawn sprinkler? The limited knowledge I have is from Florida
shallow Lawn wells which would stop up when the filter at bottom of well
would clog.

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Yeah, I do. what's going on?


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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:39:54 GMT, "Susan"
<nscv.sysop.susan@myrealbox.com> wrote:

>We're having some issues with ours. Anyone know much about them? : )


Just a little. We are on a well. Our old one starting having
pressure problems - had to add air to the tank, but it was leaking so
it became a regular thing. It was an old 2" well...we ended up
getting a new 4" well drilled. Haven't had to do anything to the new
one. What kind of problems?

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Frank:

We live in the country, so all of the above. It's for the water for
the property, including the interior of the house. : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Miles:

Power went off for 5 seconds the other day, and since then, extremely
low water pressure. I suspect the bladder might be gone. I've tried
draining the tank and setting the pressure at 30psi, which is what the
tank indicates is the default factory setting. That didn't work. So I
tried also setting it to 38psi and 20psi, since I've no idea what the
set point for it is. This, of course, after draining it each time with
the power off. After first resetting it, the pressure was high again,
but dropped after about a minute, and fine particulate dirt came out in
both the shower and the toilet tanks with the water when the former was
turned on and the latter flushed.

We still do have water, and except for that first burst of water after
draining and pumping the pressure up in the tank, the water appears
clean but it's extremely low pressure. I ran the shower for a normal
length of time yesterday morning to see what would happen, and it
started at a very low rate, went down even lower, then improved up to
lower than its standard low was before the problem, and that lasted a
very short while, then it went down to almost nothing again.

The tank inside the basement has never made any noise, so I can't tell
anything by that. I'm also not so sure I ever got it to drain fully.
The closest faucet is above the level of the tank. There's a faucet in
the piping around the tank, but when I turn that on, I just get a
couple of drips of water and nothing else. We get water on the first
floor, which is a floor above where the tank is, but not on the second
floor.

I'd have called in the pump repair people by now, but it's really a bad
time work-wise. I have to be somewhere by 8am and can't leave until
after 5 through Wednesday, so I can't be here and John can't go up and
down the stairs and navigate to that area of the basement. So I've
been trying to do at least some trouble-shooting in the morning and
evening, to get an idea of what the problem might be.

At this point I suspect either the bladder or the pressure regulator,.
I'm hoping the latter, since the former will be rather costly. : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?


> What kind of problems?


See my reply to Dave. That pretty much explains it, and thanks for
whatever ideas you may have to offer. : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Susan wrote:
> Miles:
>
> Power went off for 5 seconds the other day, and since then, extremely
> low water pressure. I suspect the bladder might be gone. I've tried
> draining the tank and setting the pressure at 30psi, which is what the
> tank indicates is the default factory setting. That didn't work. So I
> tried also setting it to 38psi and 20psi, since I've no idea what the
> set point for it is. This, of course, after draining it each time with
> the power off. After first resetting it, the pressure was high again,
> but dropped after about a minute, and fine particulate dirt came out in
> both the shower and the toilet tanks with the water when the former was
> turned on and the latter flushed.
>
> We still do have water, and except for that first burst of water after
> draining and pumping the pressure up in the tank, the water appears
> clean but it's extremely low pressure. I ran the shower for a normal
> length of time yesterday morning to see what would happen, and it
> started at a very low rate, went down even lower, then improved up to
> lower than its standard low was before the problem, and that lasted a
> very short while, then it went down to almost nothing again.
>
> The tank inside the basement has never made any noise, so I can't tell
> anything by that. I'm also not so sure I ever got it to drain fully.
> The closest faucet is above the level of the tank. There's a faucet in
> the piping around the tank, but when I turn that on, I just get a
> couple of drips of water and nothing else. We get water on the first
> floor, which is a floor above where the tank is, but not on the second
> floor.
>
> I'd have called in the pump repair people by now, but it's really a bad
> time work-wise. I have to be somewhere by 8am and can't leave until
> after 5 through Wednesday, so I can't be here and John can't go up and
> down the stairs and navigate to that area of the basement. So I've
> been trying to do at least some trouble-shooting in the morning and
> evening, to get an idea of what the problem might be.
>
> At this point I suspect either the bladder or the pressure regulator,.
> I'm hoping the latter, since the former will be rather costly. : )
>

You can tell if it is the pressure switch by observing the pressure
gauge. You can tell if it is the tank by turning off the switch,
draining the tank and putting a tire gauge on the valve. If no pressure
bladder might be gone. Get your bicycle pump and try to add air. If you
pump for a while and still no pressure on the tire gauge then it is the
bladder.
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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Goddess,

Pressure tank, the bladders gone. You can get a new one at most any Lowe's,
H-D, etc. Just make sure you get the right size; too small and they cycle
too often causing early failure. To get the proper size, count everything in
the house that has a water connection (including washer and toilets, not
just sinks) and multiply by three; that gives you the size in gallons you
need at a minimum.

HTH

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safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"


"Susan" <nscv.sysop.susan@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Miles:
>
> Power went off for 5 seconds the other day, and since then, extremely
> low water pressure. I suspect the bladder might be gone. I've tried
> draining the tank and setting the pressure at 30psi, which is what the
> tank indicates is the default factory setting. That didn't work. So I
> tried also setting it to 38psi and 20psi, since I've no idea what the
> set point for it is. This, of course, after draining it each time with
> the power off. After first resetting it, the pressure was high again,
> but dropped after about a minute, and fine particulate dirt came out in
> both the shower and the toilet tanks with the water when the former was
> turned on and the latter flushed.
>
> We still do have water, and except for that first burst of water after
> draining and pumping the pressure up in the tank, the water appears
> clean but it's extremely low pressure. I ran the shower for a normal
> length of time yesterday morning to see what would happen, and it
> started at a very low rate, went down even lower, then improved up to
> lower than its standard low was before the problem, and that lasted a
> very short while, then it went down to almost nothing again.
>
> The tank inside the basement has never made any noise, so I can't tell
> anything by that. I'm also not so sure I ever got it to drain fully.
> The closest faucet is above the level of the tank. There's a faucet in
> the piping around the tank, but when I turn that on, I just get a
> couple of drips of water and nothing else. We get water on the first
> floor, which is a floor above where the tank is, but not on the second
> floor.
>
> I'd have called in the pump repair people by now, but it's really a bad
> time work-wise. I have to be somewhere by 8am and can't leave until
> after 5 through Wednesday, so I can't be here and John can't go up and
> down the stairs and navigate to that area of the basement. So I've
> been trying to do at least some trouble-shooting in the morning and
> evening, to get an idea of what the problem might be.
>
> At this point I suspect either the bladder or the pressure regulator,.
> I'm hoping the latter, since the former will be rather costly. : )
>
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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Shallow well jet pump by chance?


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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

George:

Already did that. It retains the pressure. When pumping it up, I was
able to set it at 38, 25 and 20 psi, turn it on, run water upstairs,
turn it off, drain it and check the pressure and it was still at the
pressure I'd set. : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Miles:

As far as I know, yes. We didn't have it put in, so we don't know.
It's been here well over 10 years and possibly 15. The house was built
in the 1970's. The water lines go from the tank to outside to
something that looks vaguely like some photos I've seen of jet pumps,
but none of it makes any noise at all, and there's nothing on the
exterior items that says "jet pump." : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Brent:

The current one is 44 gallons. I do laundry once a week, we take
showers daily, we run the dishwasher every 2-3 days, and except for the
drip irrigation system in the summer that runs twice a day, that's
about it.

If it were the bladder, would it still hold the pressure, because it
does. That's what has me confused. It also does turn on and off, as
evidenced by it starting at one level of flow, then increasing to
another level after awhile, if not yet a normal level, then back down
to a lower flow, and repeating that, so long as the water is run long
enough. : )

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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

email me a picture.

If it's a jet pump the venturi may be partly blocked. Look at the intake
end. if there's a plug under the intake pipe, turn it off and get a big
crescent wrench and unscrew to plug. What you should see is a smallish
(1/4-1/2 inch) funnel. Make sure it's clear.

If the bladder is holding 20 lbs that's probably good. You likely have 18
PSI for a 20 lbs start and 40 lbs shut off system. 28 will work for 30-50.

One other possibility is that you have plugged the screens in the faucets.
Unscrew the aerator thing and open the tap then clean the screen while you
have it off.


"Susan" <nscv.sysop.susan@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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> Miles:
>
> As far as I know, yes. We didn't have it put in, so we don't know.
> It's been here well over 10 years and possibly 15. The house was built
> in the 1970's. The water lines go from the tank to outside to
> something that look vaguely like some photos I've seen of jet pumps,
> but none of it makes any noise at all, and there's nothing on the
> exterior items that says "jet pump." : )
>
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Re: Anyone know anything about well water pumps?

Miles:

As we're having a snowstorm, photos are out of the question at the
moment, not to mention I'm disinclined to romp around outside when the
mountain lions are on the prowl. <G>

I'll try to take a photo in the morning. I don't think the problem is
plugged screens. I checked the one in the kitchen, and it's fine.
Also, in the shower, when the pressure does come slowly up, the entire
shower is flowing as it should, just not at the normal pressure - all
holes are flowing.

For the rest, I'll have to take a look at it at the end of tomorrow. I
don't think there'll be time in the morning, especially if I have to
drive into town after a snow storm. : )


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