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Re: Databases and momentum

Craig,

Datamaster (Dataease)

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Shaun Pond


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Re: Databases and momentum

On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 16:27 +0000, Shaun Pond wrote:
> Craig,
>
> Datamaster (Dataease)
>


Dataflex


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Re: Databases and momentum

Counter: Microsoft Sucks. 😛

Seriously though I have a friend who is a .net developer. He loves it.
I prefer languages that don't particularly tie me to Windows. Not had
a lot of fun with Mono either. Java's a pig, but at least the small
programs I write with it work under windows and linux.

That said, I'm not a serious developer or one who makes a living from
creating software. Mostly I do stuff for myself to automate some task.
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Craig wrote:
> Which DBEs do you think have the most momentum nowadays? Which are on the
> downward slide?
>
> Oracle, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle? Btrieve? 🙂
>
> Which are being ripped out and which are being implemented?
>
>
>

Postgresql
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Re: Databases and momentum

cjcox;1916435 wrote:

Dataflex


Wow... flashback.
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Matthew wrote:

> Counter: Microsoft Sucks. 😛


LOL! Yeah, but they do have some very nice products.

> I prefer languages that don't particularly tie me to Windows.


Given the OS distribution of our organisation it simply doesn't make
financial sense to spend extra time providing cross compatibility.

> Not had a lot of fun with Mono either.


To be honest, I haven't mucked around much with Mono - I've give it
some consideration with a couple of .Net apps by making sure that the
functionality selected should move to Mono without issue but those
decisions come down to using a slightly less richly featured object
over one that is a little richer.

> Java's a pig, but at least
> the small programs I write with it work under windows and linux.


I've tried to learn to love Java, but comparing the likes of Eclipse to
Visual Studio and comparing the documentation between .Net and Java...

> That said, I'm not a serious developer or one who makes a living from
> creating software. Mostly I do stuff for myself to automate some
> task.


Nor am I. The apps that I write are typically the glue between
different systems. Occassionally there are more sophisticated
applications...
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On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 20:16 +0000, TomAnk wrote:
> cjcox;1916435 Wrote:
> >
> > Dataflex

>
> Wow... flashback.
>
>


Sadly, I've done some dataflex work in the past year.


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"I've tried to learn to love Java, but comparing the likes of Eclipse to
Visual Studio and comparing the documentation between .Net and Java..."

hey...that's not a complete sentence!!! What was the rest of this? 🙂


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Craig wrote:

> "I've tried to learn to love Java, but comparing the likes of Eclipse
> to Visual Studio and comparing the documentation between .Net and
> Java..."
>
> hey...that's not a complete sentence!!! What was the rest of this?
> 🙂


The first thing that comes to mind when dealing with Java documentation
and Eclipse is profanities 🙂

Visual Studio is very much follow your nose, very intuitive - the .Net
documentation is pretty reasonable.
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"Scott Campbell" <potato@potato.potato> wrote in news:mDq3n.4197$q93.1980
@kovat.provo.novell.com:

> The first thing that comes to mind when dealing with Java documentation
> and Eclipse is profanities 🙂
>
> Visual Studio is very much follow your nose, very intuitive - the .Net
> documentation is pretty reasonable.
>
>


As a consumer, I like the whole concept of Java. Get the JRE for your OS
and then run the apps. Done. Sure you are locked into a vendor called
Sun, but the that has got to be better than .Net

I use this daily and it is a .Net app. How the hell it is so huge I don't
know.
http://www.konicaminolta.co.nz/viewer.aspx?ID=204


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Re: Databases and momentum

Dave Taylor wrote:

> As a consumer, I like the whole concept of Java. Get the JRE for
> your OS and then run the apps. Done. Sure you are locked into a
> vendor called Sun, but the that has got to be better than .Net


The concept of Java is fantastic. Unfortunately the Windows JVM isn't
exactly a performer and when code isn't 'well' written it becomes quite
noticeable.
Though not apples vs. apples, I've seen code run under a Windows JVM
run on OS400 and the performance difference, including long running
stability is marked.

The question that I'd ask is, how many times have you had issues with
JVM updates breaking functionality in existing apps? Versus .Net
patches and updates?

> I use this daily and it is a .Net app. How the hell it is so huge I
> don't know.
> http://www.konicaminolta.co.nz/viewer.aspx?ID=204


As with any application, they can become bloated, poorly written or
designed, this can adversely effect performance.

Lawson created the "Smart Client"
http://www.infoq.com/articles/lawson-casestudy in C# and .Net, it goes
a very long way to showing a decent rich client experience. I believe
it was also showcased by Microsoft at one of the PDCs.

Visual Studio 2010 equally has impressed me.

Java has its place, and in the right hands doing the right things it
works well. Just as .Net has its place. On a development front, the
whole .Net experience; the MS IDE etc is infinitely superior to the
Java experience IMHO.
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