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HP or Dell?

Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?


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Re: HP or Dell?

I think I heard Craig say something like:

> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?


Neither. We still roll IBM, as we're doing mostly vmware stuff & have
not had issues between the two. <knocks on wood>

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Re: HP or Dell?

HP. 'Yes' to the care question. Also, still running some Netware (over 85%
running Windows).

"Craig" <elrushbo@eib.net> wrote in message
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> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
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Re: HP or Dell?

Craig wrote:

> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?


Friends don't let friends buy Dell.
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ecyoung Absent Member.
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Re: HP or Dell?

"Dude, you're getting a Dell."

Pretty much sums that up.

"Scott Campbell" <potato@potato.potato> wrote in message
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> Friends don't let friends buy Dell.



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Re: HP or Dell?

Mostly HP, but a smattering of Apple, Sun, and others.

Mostly Windows, some linux, still have some Netware.
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Re: HP or Dell?

For servers? Over the past 5 years or so it hasn't made a difference to me
since they're using so many similar components.

>>> Craig<elrushbo@eib.net> 8/19/2010 2:16 PM >>>

Do you still care, now that you're off Netware‑ish?




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Re: HP or Dell?

We've bought some Dells lately that seem really nice for VMware stuff.
Maybe the adage is outdated now?
"Scott Campbell" <potato@potato.potato> wrote in message
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> Craig wrote:
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>> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?

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> Friends don't let friends buy Dell.



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Re: HP or Dell?

You prefer HP even for Windows now?


<youngec@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> HP. 'Yes' to the care question. Also, still running some Netware (over
> 85% running Windows).
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> "Craig" <elrushbo@eib.net> wrote in message
> news:Sxebo.58177$N74.45413@kovat.provo.novell.com...
>> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
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Re: HP or Dell?

Yeah...servers. But if you have Laptop input I'd take that too.
"Mary Matthews" <mlm23NO@SPAMcalvin.edu> wrote in message
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> For servers? Over the past 5 years or so it hasn't made a difference to
> me
> since they're using so many similar components.
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>>>> Craig<elrushbo@eib.net> 8/19/2010 2:16 PM >>>

> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
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ecyoung Absent Member.
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Re: HP or Dell?

To Dell, Yes.

"Craig" <elrushbo@eib.net> wrote in message
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> You prefer HP even for Windows now?
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> <youngec@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iMebo.58181$N74.4055@kovat.provo.novell.com...
>> HP. 'Yes' to the care question. Also, still running some Netware (over
>> 85% running Windows).
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>> "Craig" <elrushbo@eib.net> wrote in message
>> news:Sxebo.58177$N74.45413@kovat.provo.novell.com...
>>> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
>>>

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Re: HP or Dell?

HP for servers.
Dell for workstations.

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Re: HP or Dell?

Hp for servers, HP for workstations.

Dell is still in business?? I thought they went the way of CompuAdd ?? 🙂


"Craig" <elrushbo@eib.net> wrote in message
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> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
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Re: HP or Dell?

I have HP and Dell laptops for work, Toshiba, Fujitsu, and AlienWare for
home. I like the HP keyboard better than the Dell, but the Dell monitor is
more resistant to damage. Love my Toshiba's keyboard, but it's a low end
unit so the video is slow. My Fujitsu laptop is now 11 years old and has
been relegated to being a portable DVD for now, and is used by the niece
when she visits; it just keeps running. My AlienWare is 9 years old and
runs circles around my Dell and with 1/2 the RAM. This is due mainly to a
"difference of opinion" between me and the person who specs the "power
users" laptops at work. I consider my Dell an "acceptable" desktop
replacement but not a "power users" laptop. FWIW

>>> Craig<elrushbo@eib.net> 8/19/2010 3:04 PM >>>

Yeah...servers. But if you have Laptop input I'd take that too.
"Mary Matthews" <mlm23NO@SPAMcalvin.edu> wrote in message
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> For servers? Over the past 5 years or so it hasn't made a difference to


> me
> since they're using so many similar components.
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>>>> Craig<elrushbo@eib.net> 8/19/2010 2:16 PM >>>

> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware‑ish?
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Re: HP or Dell?

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:16 +0000, Craig wrote:
> Do you still care, now that you're off Netware-ish?
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Servers: HP (not even close), the DL380 line, HIGHLY recommended. I
also like the c7000 blade enclosure... if properly configured (and HP
has NO idea how to do that btw), it's very nice. I don't prefer HP MSA
storage though. I do like the HP IO Accelerator (Fusion-IO) on the
blade side especially. Samsung is HP's SSD supplier (in general) and
for the most part it's first or second gen speed... nothing spectacular.

HP has great cciss RAID (SmartArray) support in Linux. Usually a no
brainer install. With Dell, it's a mixture of vendor technologies...
same names but different vendor architectures across model numbers... so
it's NEVER the same and some are good and some are bad and Dell's Linux
support is ALWAYS mixed.

Desktop: ???

HP and Dell both have issue with regards to desktops. There are
multiple classes, multiple models, they have good ones, they have bad
ones... this one is tough. I used to praise HP's xw* workstation
series, until I experienced the xw8200 which has a VERY broken Intel
gigabit onboard.... so... can't say.

Laptop: ???

Similar to the desktop situation, except I USED to recommend Dell's
Latitude and Precision lines. But they are NOT what they used to be...
and let me qualify that... because the Dell Precision M60 was a flimsy
mess (nice, but fragile).... but the M70 WAS A ROCK... I haven't seen
many laptops approach that one for being rock solid. The later Latitude
D Series line (circa the Precision M70) were ok... but mixed since
there's a plethora of configuration options. Do you get the evil Dell
wireless or go with a working Intel wireless for a few dollars more...
if you don't say, you get the stinkin Dell one.

Best thing I like about Dell laptops (possibly going away) is the
Complete Care warranty. Yes... your Dell laptop will die (esp. if it
has an Nvidia GPU)... the CC allows you to get everything replaced (even
minor things) usually withing a day (talking about a home user). That's
nice. If they can't fix it, you automatically get the next generation
model or beyond.

I currently use a HP Elitebook 2530p and I LOVE it... it does run a bit
hot, but it's POWERFUL and the size is only slightly larger than a
netbook. So for size of a US Letter size piece of paper, you can have
nice dual cores with 8G ram. It's also one of the very few Xen Desktop
supported platforms, if you want to run a standalone hypervisor instance
with full 3D rendering, etc. on the guests.

I currently have/use:

HP Proliant G3 - G7 servers
HP Proliant BL G1 - G7 servers
HP c7000 enclosure, Flex-10 ethernet VC, 4 and 8Gbit FC VC
Dell E Series laptops
Dell D Series laptops
Dell PowerEdge servers (multiple gens, 18xx, none of the new "R" line
yet... have access to them though)
HP Elitebook laptops (multiple gens)
HP Probook laptops (multiple gens)
HP xw* Workstations (multiple gens, my two primary workstations are
xw6600's)
HP Z600, Z800 Workstations

We tend to prefer HP over Dell in most cases.

Oh... we also use IBM stuff.... but mostly HP at the moment (we'll be
using a lot more IBM in the near future)




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