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IPv6, anyone actually using it?

Hi,

I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
unspecified reason.

So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?

Or put another way: "IPv6 in the enterprise, Leading Edge, Or Bleeding
Edge?"

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Re: IPv6, anyone actually using it?

You might want to point out to them that even if you switch over internally,
none of the ISP's or other providers have switched or have announced any
plans to do so in the near future, so you'll go back to IPv.4 at the edge
anyway. That's not to mention the internal headaches you're gonna have
trying to get everything you already have to switch, considering most stuff
(routers, switches, gateways, print servers, legacy apps, etc., etc.......)
are going to require either some major firmware upgrades or replacement to
play nice with v.6.....

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safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"


"Robert Charles Mahar" <info@trafficshaper.com> wrote in message
news:bx2Ei.588$89.362@kovat.provo.novell.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
> unspecified reason.
>
> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?
>
> Or put another way: "IPv6 in the enterprise, Leading Edge, Or Bleeding
> Edge?"
>
> -- Bob
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> Robert Charles Mahar
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:17:43 +0000, Robert Charles Mahar wrote:

> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
> unspecified reason.


Are you involved with the U.S. federal government? The Office of
Management and Budget has mandated that all federal agencies enable their
core networks for IPv6 by June 2008.

> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?


http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/44960-1.html

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Joe
"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do."

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Robert Charles Mahar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
> unspecified reason.
>
> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?
>
> Or put another way: "IPv6 in the enterprise, Leading Edge, Or Bleeding
> Edge?"
>
> -- Bob
>
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> Robert Charles Mahar
> Traffic Shaping Engine for NetWare
> http://www.TrafficShaper.com
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I'm using a alpha version of IPv7 only found on bittorrent

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your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive
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Robert Charles Mahar <info@trafficshaper.com> expounded:
> Hi,


> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
> unspecified reason.


> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?


> Or put another way: "IPv6 in the enterprise, Leading Edge, Or Bleeding
> Edge?"


No, and our Telecom people snicker whenever anyone mentions is. Yes, it
may be the 'wave of the future', but due to bidding on a netblock in the
late 80's, we have more IPv4 addresses than we need. So, we'll probably
convert when our upstream supports it and starts putting pressure on us.


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--Borg Consulate--
Tape backup, the bane of my existance
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No, but apparently someone THINKS we are. 😉

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Joseph Marton wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:17:43 +0000, Robert Charles Mahar wrote:
>
>> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
>> unspecified reason.

>
> Are you involved with the U.S. federal government? The Office of
> Management and Budget has mandated that all federal agencies enable their
> core networks for IPv6 by June 2008.
>
>> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
>> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?

>
> http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/44960-1.html
>

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Thanks for the replies...

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Robert Charles Mahar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
> unspecified reason.
>
> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?
>
> Or put another way: "IPv6 in the enterprise, Leading Edge, Or Bleeding
> Edge?"
>
> -- Bob
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Robert Charles Mahar
> Traffic Shaping Engine for NetWare
> http://www.TrafficShaper.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Hi Bob;
I've got a different perspective here.

First of all, no one is planning to retire IPv4 in favor of IPv6. IPv6
is all about building IPv6 capability into your existing IPv4 network
so you are ready to support IPv6 in the near future. How soon the
"near future" is coming is a matter of debate, but most people agree
that with the constained volume of IPv4 address space remaining in the
allocatable pool, and the progress the standards bodies and vendors
have made in defining and implementing IPv6, and the early returns from
IPv6 deployments (more in Asia and Europe than North America, but some
in NA as well), the future is closer than it looks.

Even if your view today is that IPv6 is a ways out for your
organziation, if you buy equipment with a 3 year depreciation schedule,
you should have someone in the organization looking at IPv6 capability,
making some plans, and making sure you have a smooth path to IPv6 when
it becomes hot for you. Some organziations are using IPv6 today, for
real, in their production networks - a minority. Others will tiptoe in
soon, others not for some time - maybe a few years. Depends on a lot
of things. It may well not be hot now for you.

And, one of the posts is quite right - most SPs in North America do not
offer IPv6 today. That said, most of them are looking at it, and
thinking about it, and putting it on their "need to consider that"
list. There are also still people who think the whole thing is silly
and will never happen, but they are in a minority. I well remember
1994 and all the enterprise security people that said "we're never
connecting our network to the Internet - are you crazy!?!". Things
change. IPv6 is a 40 year protocol 10 years into it's effective life,
and will be widely deployed - there is no alternative and just making
IPv4 work for another 25 years is not an option.

The emergence of IPv6 as a primary networking protocol has been
over-hyped and predicted to be "really happening now" before, and that
makes us all wary, but that doesn't mean one day it won't really be
here. That day is now, or soon, or at least "before long" for most of
us. If we use our good engineering heads, learn a little, think a
little, and hatch a common-sense plan, IPv6 is just another evolution
in the network.

-- Spence


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JohnSpence <JohnSpence.2wmfyc@no-mx.nds_engineer.com> wrote in
news:JohnSpence.2wmfyc@no-mx.nds_engineer.com:

> The emergence of IPv6 as a primary networking protocol has been
> over-hyped and predicted to be "really happening now" before, and that
> makes us all wary, but that doesn't mean one day it won't really be
> here. That day is now, or soon, or at least "before long" for most of
> us. If we use our good engineering heads, learn a little, think a
> little, and hatch a common-sense plan, IPv6 is just another evolution
> in the network.


Just an observation, but the NZNOG has regular discussions on IPV6 transit
and some people would like their ISP to support it now, so I would agree
that "Real Soon Now" is coming quickly.
New Fiery Controllers for printers support it today, out of the box, so
there is one business device that can use it right now, if that helps at
all.
NZNOG is here:
http://www.nznog.org/

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Ciao, Dave
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:29:02 +0000, JohnSpence wrote:

> the future
> is closer than it looks.


IPv6 has been right around the corner for what, 10 years now? I'm not
holding my breath.

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Joe
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Joseph Marton wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:17:43 +0000, Robert Charles Mahar wrote:


>> I have recieved a mandate to "migrate to IPv6 by 2008" for some
>> unspecified reason.


> Are you involved with the U.S. federal government? The Office of
> Management and Budget has mandated that all federal agencies enable their
> core networks for IPv6 by June 2008.


>> So who is actually using IPv6 - and by that I you mean have a pervasive
>> IPv6 network, and use it in place of IPv4 through the enterprise?


> http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/44960-1.html


Yep, the EPA has been told to get this done by June 08.

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Chris,

>
> Yep, the EPA has been told to get this done by June 08.
>


And when did any government agency complete tasks on time.... Do I have
to remind you of cluster !@#$%s of a few years ago?? See my blog 🙂

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Jay Calderwood
http://jaycalderwood.blogspot.com

....The road to happiness is forgiveness... Now that my one and only true
love is back in my arms, I am happy.
I now know the mistakes I have made and will not make them again.

(MATT 6:14-16 KJV) For if you forgive men when they sin against you,
your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive
your sins.
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