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Need a response for my manager....

So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
static IP addresses.

So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front
line ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally
baffled searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede
my future employment opportunities.

Anyone care to comment?
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

DonsRoute wrote:
> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
> static IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front
> line ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally
> baffled searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede
> my future employment opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?




I'd ask how he figured that out in the first place.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Why not use DHCP reservations for printers? Would save a lot of
configuration for the printers that is for sure. Plus if you decommission a
card, put a new printer up at that reused IP you don't have to worry about
ip conflicts between the new & old print server.

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"DonsRoute" <donsroute-widgets@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1gQ3l.11586$wo4.7962@kovat.provo.novell.com...
> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
> static IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front line
> ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally baffled
> searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede my future
> employment opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?


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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

I find it's better so you know where the printer is, and can access via a
browser. Especially helpful if you use big copiers or MF Printers.


"DonsRoute" <donsroute-widgets@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1gQ3l.11586$wo4.7962@kovat.provo.novell.com...
> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
> static IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front line
> ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally baffled
> searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede my future
> employment opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?



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grimlock1 Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

DonsRoute wrote:
> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
> static IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front
> line ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally
> baffled searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede
> my future employment opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?


How is your server going to find it if the address keeps changing?

And are you talking about hard coded static in the printer, or assigned
via dhcp based on it's mac address? If it's hard coded static, I agree
with him/her.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Craig wrote:

> I find it's better so you know where the printer is, and can access
> via a browser. Especially helpful if you use big copiers or MF
> Printers.


If you use DHCP updating DNS then you can also use a browser to access
your printers.

I made the move a few years ago and I haven't looked back, I've found
it far less administratively intensive. Assign a printer a meaningful
name, plug it in, set up the TCP/IP port in the client to point to that
name and you're away.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Patrick Farrell wrote:

> How is your server going to find it if the address keeps changing?


Some implementations of DHCP can update DNS. As long as you have
internal dns set up and your server is pointing to the internal dns
server(s)... 🙂

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adrockk Trusted Contributor.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

When your done, have them talk to my director. He still insists that every
device on my network has a static addy. I recently convinced him to do
MAC-registered DHCP for laptops to make it easy to move between home and here.


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DonsRoute spewed:

> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using static
> IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front line ops
> people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally baffled searching
> for a response in such a manner that would not impede my future employment
> opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?


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zeffan Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Why not use DHCP reservations for printers? Would save a lot of
configuration for the printers that is for sure. Plus if you decommission a
card, put a new printer up at that reused IP you don't have to worry about
ip conflicts between the new & old print server.


I concur with all of this. Plus, if you have problems with a printer NIC, you can always do a factory reset on it, and not have to do any administration on it because it'll get the right IP from DHCP.
In addition to that, by having it in your DNS and DHCP tables, its somewhat self-documenting.
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grimlock1 Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Adam Gabriel wrote:
> When your done, have them talk to my director. He still insists that every
> device on my network has a static addy. I recently convinced him to do
> MAC-registered DHCP for laptops to make it easy to move between home and here.
>


You can still do that. Manually assign the address based on the mac
address on the server. Set the client to automatically obtain. When at
work they gets the address you assigned, when at home they get whatever
their dhcp hands out.
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grimlock1 Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Scott Campbell wrote:
> Patrick Farrell wrote:
>
>> How is your server going to find it if the address keeps changing?

>
> Some implementations of DHCP can update DNS. As long as you have
> internal dns set up and your server is pointing to the internal dns
> server(s)... 🙂
>


Yuck.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Patrick Farrell wrote:

> Scott Campbell wrote:
> > Some implementations of DHCP can update DNS. As long as you have
> > internal dns set up and your server is pointing to the internal dns
> > server(s)... 🙂

> Yuck.


Yuck? Pfft! 🙂
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adrockk Trusted Contributor.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

Thats what I donvinced him to do... but not for desktops. Even though the techs
screw up all the time and end up with dupe IP's about once a week, they still
want to stay static.
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Patrick Farrell spewed:

> Adam Gabriel wrote:
> > When your done, have them talk to my director. He still insists that every
> > device on my network has a static addy. I recently convinced him to do
> > MAC-registered DHCP for laptops to make it easy to move between home and
> > here.
> >

>
> You can still do that. Manually assign the address based on the mac address
> on the server. Set the client to automatically obtain. When at work they
> gets the address you assigned, when at home they get whatever their dhcp
> hands out.


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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

DonsRoute wrote:
> So the other day my manager actually asked why we have printers using
> static IP addresses.
>
> So I must admit that there is usually a disconnect between the front
> line ops people and the wizards in the high tower. I was totally
> baffled searching for a response in such a manner that would not impede
> my future employment opportunities.
>
> Anyone care to comment?



I've been told over and over again to never use DHCP for printers. For
the life of me I don't know why not. I've used it quite successfully
for years now. However, I use reserved IP's within DHCP and I also use
the IP to "segment" the devices in my networks. The nice thing about
DHCP with Reservation is if I need to make an IP change I can do it
without having to go to each device. So far it's been working great for
me. I don't rely on DHCP or the Device to properly register DNS though.
Doesn't seem to work that well with printers. I manually enter DNS
information for printers, switches, etc. Workstation I don't care about.

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Need a response for my manager....

just put a bounce sheet on top of your switch, that should help with the
staticy IP addresses.

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