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Re: Netware 4.11 virtualization

Cgreiner;2499279 wrote:
OK, i anderstand.

Are this Cobol development? I think its a C language application

I have worked a Long time with btrieve/pervasive on netware, later also on Windows!

1. you can install nw65sp8a on a virtual machine (here is btrieve included) and test your applications! Not an option for us since we don't have a license installer of NW6
2. yon can install a oes or sles Server and install btrieve (now pervasive running on Linux in 2 modes, as btrieve or as SQL-database) I will try to look into this

Do you Need nds or edirectory for your application? Yes our existing NW has NDS
How big is your application and databse? not that big since this is a legacy system already

cg



In your own experience do you think this high memory utilization might cause an issue in the future or can be ignored as what Anders mentioned in this thread (see below)

Joemamps,
> I see the high memory utilization on netware itself in console
> monitor 97% memory used 3% free.

I would ignore that unless you are experiencing other problems.

- Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

In article <joemamps.8zge7b@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Joemamps
wrote:
> I see the high memory utilization in on netware itself in console
> monitor 97% memory used 3% free.


Looking through the options in Monitor, can you see what is using the
memory? (LOAD MONITOR if it isn't already running and just look at
the options it gives you, googling them as necessary)
I wrote up some NetWare optimization bits long ago that might help you
https://www.konecnyad.ca/andyk/nwoptmz.htm

I've seen CPU at full speed doing nothing that then yielded to actual
work, but I haven't seen a full memory before like that. But then I
haven't virtualized anything older than NetWare 6.0 so far.

Sorry for the delay, life has had a busy burst. Hope this migration has
been going well for you.


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

In article <Cgreiner.8zkmin@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Cgreiner
wrote:
> 1. you can install nw65sp8a on a virtual machine (here is btrieve
> included) and test your applications!
> 2. yon can install a oes or sles Server and install btrieve (now
> pervasive running on Linux in 2 modes, as btrieve or as SQL-database)


I've seen where a newer btrieve break an app because of the assumptions
that went into creating the old app, and unless you have someone ready
to rebuild (are you volunteering?) that app to accommodate the newer
models that came with the upgrades, then it can be a very expensive
exercise to get nowhere.

Sometimes you just have to preserve the old system as best as you can
until some time as the funds can be made available to rebuild the app
on a current set of assumptions or do without the app.

I supported a NetWare 3.12 box (with older Btrieve because newer broke
their app) up until 2008 when they replaced the whole system with a
'web based' (IE6 based <shaking head, sigh>) system.
Elsewhere I still support some NetWare 6.x of different versions
because they work, the patch test cycle is sufficiently long and
costly, and there is no way they are 'just trying it' with such mission
critical systems.

Simply beatting the drum of 'newer is better' is just a pinhead move
that ignores all the other reality of running a business. Just because
you can do a thing, doesn't make it a good thing to do. Best practises
aren't always the best practise for a given situation, only a starting
point in the engineering/design phase.


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Its certainly not NW4.11, but I've got three NW6.5 servers in production
on vMware ESXi. One of them has been virtual for years, the other 2 for
about a year. Same story that the physical hardware was getting old, one
of them was a Compaq DL380G3.

Since our hypervisor is vMware, there are vMware tools available that
help with the memory and CPU issues. The tools are old and well out of
vMware support, but I suppose that isn't different than NetWare itself.
Looking at the tools iso, there is an nw4 idler nlm in the folder, I'll
guess that means nw4 support was available at one point. There is no
readme.

The virtualized systems work reasonably well, NetWare is more like 99.9%
stable vs. rock solid on the physical hardware. We've seen the server
VMs needing to be restarted somewhere around annually. I only have 1vCPU
and 2GB of ram allocated to each VM.






On 5/2/2019 2:04 AM, joemamps wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'am trying to migrate our netware 4.11 physical server to a vm. Iam
> almost ready to go live in our production but i noticed that the memory
> utilization is always 97%., before i encountered high cpu utilization
> and i was able to resolve it by using 2 processor but this one i dont
> know what to do I already increased its memory to 3gb but still the
> same. Is there anybody here also encountered this high memory
> utilization issue? Hoping someone might help me with this.. Thank you
>
>


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 14:27:29 GMT, unsigned <unsigned@digerati.us>
wrote:

>Its certainly not NW4.11, but I've got three NW6.5 servers in production
>on vMware ESXi. One of them has been virtual for years, the other 2 for
>about a year. Same story that the physical hardware was getting old, one
>of them was a Compaq DL380G3.
>
>Since our hypervisor is vMware, there are vMware tools available that
>help with the memory and CPU issues. The tools are old and well out of
>vMware support, but I suppose that isn't different than NetWare itself.
>Looking at the tools iso, there is an nw4 idler nlm in the folder, I'll
>guess that means nw4 support was available at one point. There is no
>readme.
>
>The virtualized systems work reasonably well, NetWare is more like 99.9%
>stable vs. rock solid on the physical hardware. We've seen the server
>VMs needing to be restarted somewhere around annually. I only have 1vCPU
>and 2GB of ram allocated to each VM.


And seeing this reminds me that I need to shut down my last Netware
6.5 server sometime soon. I finally found a SLES based replacement
for it. Was leaving it in place as a backup until I was sure the SLES
based software was working correctly.

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