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Netware 4.11 vertualization

Hello all,

I'am trying to migrate our netware 4.11 physical server to a vm. Iam almost ready to go live in our production but i noticed that the memory utilization is always 97%., before i encountered high cpu utilization and i was able to resolve it by using 2 processor but this one i dont know what to do I already increased its memory to 3gb but still the same. Is there anybody here also encountered this high memory utilization issue? Hoping someone might help me with this.. Thank you
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Joemamps,
> Is there anybody here also encountered this high memory
> utilization issue?


Ah. I thought you said "CPU" but you are talking about memory. I would
say that it is completely normal. NW 4.x will grab all memory assigned
to it right away as that is the most efficient way to use memory on a
physical box.


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

In article <joemamps.8zeq0o@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Joemamps
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> netware 4.11 physical server to a vm.


Is this high utilization what you see on NetWare itself or at the
hypervisor (which one?) level?

From the hypervisor, we expect to see full use of CPU and RAM because
that is what NetWare does (remember you are talking about pre green era
opperating system) It isn't until the very last version of NetWare
(6.5.8) that we had the bits to manage that appearance.


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Thant's correct I am referring to its memory usage.


AndersG;2499126 wrote:
Joemamps,
> Is there anybody here also encountered this high memory
> utilization issue?


Ah. I thought you said "CPU" but you are talking about memory. I would
say that it is completely normal. NW 4.x will grab all memory assigned
to it right away as that is the most efficient way to use memory on a
physical box.


- Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell has a new enhancement request system,
or what is now known as the requirement portal.
If customers would like to give input in the upcoming
releases of Novell products then they should go to
http://www.novell.com/rms
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joemamps Absent Member.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

I see the high memory utilization in on netware itself in console monitor 97% memory used 3% free.

Normally on our physical server this is fluctuating.




konecnya;2499157 wrote:
In article <joemamps.8zeq0o@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com>, Joemamps
wrote:
> netware 4.11 physical server to a vm.


Is this high utilization what you see on NetWare itself or at the
hypervisor (which one?) level?

From the hypervisor, we expect to see full use of CPU and RAM because
that is what NetWare does (remember you are talking about pre green era
opperating system) It isn't until the very last version of NetWare
(6.5.8) that we had the bits to manage that appearance.


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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Joemamps,
> I see the high memory utilization in on netware itself in console
> monitor 97% memory used 3% free.


I would ignore that unless you are experiencing other problems.

- Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell has a new enhancement request system,
or what is now known as the requirement portal.
If customers would like to give input in the upcoming
releases of Novell products then they should go to
http://www.novell.com/rms

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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

As you gave the VM a second CPU i'd assume you're running VM Workstation. Anyway, basic rules for NetWare VMs:
- reserve memory (i.e. fully pre-allocate whatever you want to give)
- ONE CPU (especially for NW4)
- use an idler (such as nw4-idle or vmidle)
- patch to the top
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joemamps Absent Member.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

I did follow this rules but with no success. thank you mathias
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Which build of DOS are you using? How do config.sys and autoexec.bat look like?
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joemamps Absent Member.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

So far I haven't encountered any problem during my initial testing hope will experience the same during our production run 🙂
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

ms dos version 6.22


config.sys

files=100
buffers=100

device=c:\dos\cd1.sys /d:banana
lastdrive=z
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greiner Honored Contributor.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

What is the reason to maintain netware 4.11 on production?
this product is obsolete, also netware 6.5sp8, the latest Version, also not easy to virtualize, but possible!
What application run on this Server!
On my experience, there is no Problem to install a open Enterprise Server 2018sp1 and migrate the applications, or sles12/sles15

cg
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

Almost perfect. I'd just leave out the realmode cdrom driver.
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joemamps Absent Member.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

The software developers who created the application are no longer in the company which means that we have no support on the application side to migrate this to latest version of server. Our nw server hardware is beginning to experience hardware issue and might breakdown soon that's why we are considering virtualization as an option.

Most of the programs running on the server is dos applications using btrieve database.
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greiner Honored Contributor.
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Re: Netware 4.11 vertualization

OK, i anderstand.
Are this Cobol development?
I have worked a Long time with btrieve/pervasive on netware, later also on Windows!

1. you can install nw65sp8a on a virtual machine (here is btrieve included) and test your applications!
2. yon can install a oes or sles Server and install btrieve (now pervasive running on Linux in 2 modes, as btrieve or as SQL-database)

Do you Need nds or edirectory for your application?
How big is your application and databse?

cg
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