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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Ran Cores on Netframe 4.11 servers back in the day; worked great, and I've
still got two of them running here on a 4.11 server thats been in service
since <Diety> was a lance corporal......


"Barry Schnur" <Bschnur@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> Core International.......
>> <G>
>>

> Mainframer!
>
>
> --
> Barry Schnur


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Sewermonger Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Bummer. I've always liked Seagate but I've gotten WD of late.
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BSchnur Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

> Ran Cores on Netframe 4.11 servers back in the day; worked great, and I've
> still got two of them running here on a 4.11 server thats been in service
> since <Diety> was a lance corporal......
>

I only have two 4.11/4.2 servers still in service -- running mirrored
SCSI drives. I've one which failed on of the mirror drives. Data is
backed up elsewhere (plus tape).

At some point I will track down a replacement 72G SCSI drive and rebuild
that mirror.



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Barry Schnur

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hspeirs Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Barry,

> 100 users saving all their MP3's, JPG's and videos to a server -- nice.


Need a copy of BlokFile? 😄

H.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

On 3/27/10 10:46 AM, Sewermonger wrote:
>
> Bummer. I've always liked Seagate but I've gotten WD of late.
>
>


I've been buying hitachi lately. Every WD drive I've bought in the last
couple of years has gone bad. First they click and then they die.
Sadly though WD isn't the only drives I've had that problem with. I
guess I'm just hard on them. 😞
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Matthew Good wrote:

> I've been buying hitachi lately. Every WD drive I've bought in the
> last couple of years has gone bad. First they click and then they
> die. Sadly though WD isn't the only drives I've had that problem
> with. I guess I'm just hard on them. 😞


I have cheapo Kingston SSD drives in Desktop and Laptop.
The PHB put one in his desktop and it fried in 2 weeks.
<snicker>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

On 3/29/10 9:28 AM, Adam Gabriel wrote:
> Matthew Good wrote:
>
>> I've been buying hitachi lately. Every WD drive I've bought in the
>> last couple of years has gone bad. First they click and then they
>> die. Sadly though WD isn't the only drives I've had that problem
>> with. I guess I'm just hard on them. 😞

>
> I have cheapo Kingston SSD drives in Desktop and Laptop.
> The PHB put one in his desktop and it fried in 2 weeks.
> <snicker>


Gotta love the crap we buy.
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adrockk Trusted Contributor.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Matthew Good wrote:

> Gotta love the crap we buy.


I figured the odds of an SSD dying are about the same as an HDD. And
when they go they usually go within the first few months.

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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

On 3/29/10 10:35 AM, Adam Gabriel wrote:
> Matthew Good wrote:
>
>> Gotta love the crap we buy.

>
> I figured the odds of an SSD dying are about the same as an HDD. And
> when they go they usually go within the first few months.


I don't know about SSD, but the hard drives I've had go bad usually do
so within the two years.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

I have a Micropolis on the desk behind me.
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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

>> Yes, but not everyone has a grasp of all the RAID levels.
>
> Isn't RAID 3 three times better than RAID 1?


One might think. In the event of a controller failure it doesn't matter
much. Unfortunately, one can chase the holy grail of redundancy forever.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Actually, I think the ratior is 2 for every WD drive 🙂


"Patrick Farrell" <pfarrell@packereng.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/26/2010 1:06 PM, thsundel wrote:
>>
>> About 15 years ago when I bought my first PC it had a Seagate drive.
>> After a while the drive failed and I lost all my data, I told myself
>> never again a Seagate drive.
>>
>> 14 years later I bought my current computer I decided to go with
>> Seagate again (stupid me), I even bought 2 of them 500GB. I configured
>> RAID0 and everything was nice until one day months ago, one drive failed
>> loosing everything again :mad:.
>>
>> Threw out the failed drive and installed everything again on the
>> working Seagate drive.
>>
>> Guess what, a couple weeks ago that drive died, all data lost again
>> :mad:
>>
>> Started googling and found out that this is a known issue and many
>> people have had the same problem, seems to be a firmware issue.
>>
>> 'Seagate customers swamped by Barracuda drive failures • The
>> Register'
>> (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/16/barracuda_failure_plague/)
>>
>> Contacted Seagate support and they offered free data recovery which was
>> nice.. So on Monday I will submit a ticket with seagate for data
>> recovery, I really hope everything will work out smoothly.
>>
>> Thomas
>>

>
> For every Seagate horror story, there's one for Western Digital, Hitachi,
> Maxtor, IBM, you name it. It happens to all of them.
>
>
>



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BSchnur Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

I think the 'RAID 6' designs -- (RAID 5 with a hot spare) would be a
good approach to critical data handling (performance plus reliability)
-- but always with the requirement of some backup approach.



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Barry Schnur

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BSchnur Absent Member.
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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

I think the oldest and smallest drives I have are some 2G SCSI Seagates
-- don't know if they work -- don't care either <smile>.



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Barry Schnur

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Re: Never again, goodbye Seagate

Personally (for home use) I've never had a problem with Seagate drives. I did stop buying them for a while only because they had ceased their warranty (was it it went from 5 to 3 or from 3 to 1 year) a while ago.

I've had major issues with WD and Maxtors but it seemed to go in phases, I'm guessing probably lot/batches or something.

Of course, Seagate owns Maxtor now.

Lately I'm a bit perturbed because a lot of the Seagate drives no longer offer the accoustic management to make them quieter, so I go with the WD Green line.

For my laptops I used Hitachi's and never had a problem.

For our servers I think they're all pretty much Seagate now (our old Dell's had IBM, Fujitsu and Seagates all mixed around).
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