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ThinkVantage software

For those of you who deploy ThinkPad laptops, do you include the
ThinkVantage software in your Windows builds?



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I think I heard Joseph Marton say something like:

> For those of you who deploy ThinkPad laptops, do you include the
> ThinkVantage software in your Windows builds?


Have images where it's on there, images where it's not. Just depended
on my mood when I created the image.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:41:01 +0000, Stevo wrote:

> Have images where it's on there, images where it's not. Just depended
> on my mood when I created the image.


Any advantage/disadvantage one way or the other best you can tell?



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Re: ThinkVantage software

I think I heard Joseph Marton say something like:

> Any advantage/disadvantage one way or the other best you can tell?


Nothing that I can tell really. It's nice having the presentation
director, active protection, and the access connections (sometimes).
Also nice sometimes having system update on there.

Although the machines that don't have these on there run just fine too.

Hope this great info helps. <G>

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:51:13 +0000, Stevo wrote:

> Hope this great info helps. <G>


Yeah, tells me I need to flip a coin. 🙂

Thanks though... doesn't sound like anything earth shattering is on there
which is what I need to know.



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Re: ThinkVantage software

I think I heard Joseph Marton say something like:

> Thanks though... doesn't sound like anything earth shattering is on
> there which is what I need to know.


Yeah, some nicities is about it.

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I just keep the Power Management and Active Protection utilities on. Everything else is pretty much useless to anyone here.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:36:01 +0000, imc wrote:

> I just keep the Power Management and Active Protection utilities on.
> Everything else is pretty much useless to anyone here.


I like the idea about the active protection. Can you install that
without installing the toolbox, productivity suite, etc?



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Re: ThinkVantage software

I think I heard Joseph Marton say something like:

> I like the idea about the active protection. Can you install that
> without installing the toolbox, productivity suite, etc?


Yes, I believe you can pick and choose what thinkvantage apps you'd
like to install.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:27:43 +0000, Stevo wrote:

> Yes, I believe you can pick and choose what thinkvantage apps you'd like
> to install.


Having some power management issues but it doesn't seem like the Power
ThinkVantage app helps. Ever seen where in XP the monitor goes blank,
but then you can't wake it up? I've got standby & hard disk spin down
both disabled in XP's power settings, and I didn't see anything in the
power management app to customize this any other way. Just went in to
the BIOS and disabled the step-down stuff while on AC power as all this
has happened while the unit's been on AC power. We'll see how that
works. If that makes no difference I'll try changing the CPU power
management setting from automatic to disabled.

Another weird thing... if not logged into Windows and I leave the thing
sitting here, eventually I'll see a message of "going into standby" which
is superimposed on the press ctrl-alt-del message. Unit never actually
goes into standby, but I'm not sure why it's even trying.

I'm hoping there's some BIOS setting here to fix all this.



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Joseph Marton wrote:

> Ever seen where in XP the monitor goes blank,
> but then you can't wake it up?


Yep, seen it when the vid card drivers are old, or just poorly written.
If you've got vendor drivers on, try using windows ones; or visa-versa.

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On 1/22/2010 3:51 PM, Adam Gabriel wrote:

> Yep, seen it when the vid card drivers are old, or just poorly written.
> If you've got vendor drivers on, try using windows ones; or visa-versa.


Using ATI drivers from Lenovo right now. I'll try drivers direct from
ATI tomorrow as they're usually good on keeping their drivers updates.
Let's cross our fingers!

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Re: ThinkVantage software

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:51:43 +0000, Adam Gabriel wrote:

> Yep, seen it when the vid card drivers are old, or just poorly written.
> If you've got vendor drivers on, try using windows ones; or visa-versa.


Doesn't look like that's it. Rebuilt the machine, slowly adding more
drivers and seeing if the machine does this funky thing again. With the
ATI video drivers from Lenovo installed, it didn't do it. Installed a
few more drivers and now it came back so I'm restoring the Ghost image I
took of it after installing the ATI stuff. I'm guessing it's this
"Thinkpad PM Driver" that I installed via Windows Update. I'll leave
that one out but install the other remaining stuff like modem, sound, etc
and see what happens.

If that's the driver causing it I'll have an easier time calling Lenovo
tech support. We'll see just how good their support is. Never called
'em before.



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Re: ThinkVantage software

Joseph Marton wrote:

> I'm guessing it's this
> "Thinkpad PM Driver" that I installed via Windows Update.


Its generally something to do with power management, and vid cards have
been a frequent offender for me, that's why I mentioned them.

Why does power management need its own driver? Shouldn't the device
drivers all take care of that themselves, or leave it up to ACPI.

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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:10:12 +0000, Adam Gabriel wrote:

> Why does power management need its own driver? Shouldn't the device
> drivers all take care of that themselves, or leave it up to ACPI.


Dunno, but this "device" shows up as an unknown device in Device
Manager. When I do an update and let it search Windows Update, Windows
then installs this suspicious driver.

Letting Windows sit at the CTRL-ALT-DEL screen now having reimaged the PC
and then installed the modem & audio drivers. Bet it won't be a problem
but I'll find out in a bit.



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