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this is just like kgroneman, ask us to do something knowing we don't
know how....and, not telling us how!!

so, i signed up for face book 500 times, because a friend 500 times,
and UNliked the blurry building photo with flower in the way 500 thymes..

his kid needs to pay his own way!

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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:21:18 GMT, baskitcaise <baskitcaise@gmx.co.uk>
wrote:

>But I don`t do farcebook, imspaced, etc.. etc.., I may have an account due
>to sheer imbecility on my behalf but.. but.. I have no clue what to do with
>them.


I've managed to avoid acquiring accounts in any of those things (newsgoups
are the extent of my sophistication in online communities).

Donald Albury
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Donald Albury wrote:

> I've managed to avoid acquiring accounts in any of those things (newsgoups
> are the extent of my sophistication in online communities).


To totally hijack Kim's message <g> - I was thinking about this just this
weekend. Someone was telling me how dangerous places like Facebook are, and
how people can find out things about you that you don't want the public to
know, etc. It struck me that many of my online friends are HERE in
newsgroups that are absolutely publically available, and in some ways we are
lured into a false sense of "privacy" here. We know deep down that it's not
really private here, and yet we also have a sense of "community" and that we
"know" the people we are talking to here and probably write things that we
would not say in a room full of strangers. Yet we have strangers watching
all of the time! On Facebook you at least KNOW who has direct access to
what you are posting (and if you've allow people and or apps access to your
data frivilously, then that's your fault <heehee>).

This really struck home to me when we suddenly realized that the ngwlist was
sending messages to twitter every time someone posted a message (that
included our full email addresses). That's another place that seems like
"community" and it's comfortable there to let one's hair down from time to
time. But then we remembered that it's archived to a site that is totally
accessible by Google, as are the Novell newsgroups.

Oddly enough, people on this very newsgroup talk about the "dangers" of
places like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc., and yet then turn around and
post their children's birthdates, cats' names, home towns, spouses' places
of birth, links to photo albums, etc, all in passing. It's not like there
is a "list" of information about us written in one place, but we "drop"
hints to personal information all of the time here. "Happy birthday Johnny
- how old are you?" "Oh, I'm 47 today. It's was 9:21 a.m. when I was born
in Podunk, Wyoming to Joe and Jane Doe just 47 years ago today. How they've
put up with me and my craziness I'll never know - only my dear spouse
Marguerite has to put up with more from me" etc <g>.

I'm thinking we have more to worry about here than on Facebook <heehee>.

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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:17:00 GMT, DZanre <dzanre@no-mx.forums.novell.com>
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>I'm thinking we have more to worry about here than on Facebook <heehee>.


And much of what's out there I have had no control over. A book that
contains part of my geneology going back 2 or 3 centuries has been
published on-line. So much for using my mother's maiden name as a security
code.

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DZanre,
>
> Oddly enough, people on this very newsgroup talk about the "dangers" of
> places like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc., and yet then turn around and
> post their children's birthdates, cats' names, home towns, spouses' places
> of birth, links to photo albums, etc, all in passing. It's not like there
> is a "list" of information about us written in one place, but we "drop"
> hints to personal information all of the time here. "Happy birthday Johnny
> - how old are you?" "Oh, I'm 47 today. It's was 9:21 a.m. when I was born
> in Podunk, Wyoming to Joe and Jane Doe just 47 years ago today. How they've
> put up with me and my craziness I'll never know - only my dear spouse
> Marguerite has to put up with more from me" etc <g>.


That all sounds pretty innocuous, except for "cats' names". What are
people thinking that they would publicize such sensitive information?!
[g&d]

Seriously though, I guess I also tend to forget the amount of
information I make public here. I don't post my real birth date
anywhere else online, but I'm sure it's on the NCCI calendar. On the
other hand, people would have to dig and collate that information.
Facebook is a one-stop data-mining superstore.




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DougB wrote:

> On the
> other hand, people would have to dig and collate that information.
> Facebook is a one-stop data-mining superstore.


But unless there is a "breach of security" and someone can get to your
information, you are still responsible for placing all of that information
into someone's hands by how you set up your security, who you accept as
friends, and what facebook apps you allow access to your account. You are
in "control" for the most part.

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But while I use what seems like a real address, and have built up an
elaborate facade for you all, I'm actually a 6-foot tall, 30-year-old
named Bruce who lives in my Mom's basement.

You however, are more famous (at least to most of us).


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Kathryn Carruthers wrote:

> But while I use what seems like a real address, and have built up an
> elaborate facade for you all, I'm actually a 6-foot tall, 30-year-old
> named Bruce who lives in my Mom's basement.
>
> You however, are more famous (at least to most of us).


When my husband and I were "courting" online I eventually told him I was a
200 pound bloke named Claude.

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DZanre wrote:
> Kathryn Carruthers wrote:
>
>> But while I use what seems like a real address, and have built up an
>> elaborate facade for you all, I'm actually a 6-foot tall, 30-year-old
>> named Bruce who lives in my Mom's basement.
>>
>> You however, are more famous (at least to most of us).

>
> When my husband and I were "courting" online I eventually told him I was a
> 200 pound bloke named Claude.
>


Which was true up until the surgery....

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goldie;1842002 wrote:
this is just like kgroneman, ask us to do something knowing we don't
know how....and, not telling us how!!

He's probably wet himself laughing... 😉 It's been suspiciously quiet on his side! LOL
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> It's been suspiciously quiet on his side! LOL

yep...probably had to find his office stash of Depends.

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kgroneman wrote:

>This is not spam...really.


Generally, when a message explicitely claims to be not spam, I implicitely
assume it must be spam. 😉

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