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food for thought: OLPC

I'm usually fond of John Dvorak's PC Magazine articles because he's such a
crotchety old grump. "I have never seen such a cavalier and pompous
assuredness in my life." Good article:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2227850,00.asp


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It does seem at least plausible that some smart people living in
impoverished areas may discover a way to purify water, increase crop growth,
reduce infant mortality or increase literacy....if they have a laptop. No?


"Mary Wood" <naomi37@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm usually fond of John Dvorak's PC Magazine articles because he's such a
> crotchety old grump. "I have never seen such a cavalier and pompous
> assuredness in my life." Good article:
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2227850,00.asp
>



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Re: food for thought: OLPC

Craig,
> It does seem at least plausible that some smart people living in
> impoverished areas may discover a way to purify water, increase crop growth,
> reduce infant mortality or increase literacy....if they have a laptop. No?
>



I disagree that OLPC is contemptuous of the world's poor. At worst it's
misguided.

And that's all I'm saying about it. 😉


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I dunno...I hear a lot of people criticizing anything that anyone does to
help anyone. You could purify water for the destitute and someone will
criticize you for not giving them food.

OTOH, His brother is the other Negroponte. 🙂



"Doug Black" <""dougd otb lack\"@osumc .edu"> wrote in message
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> Craig,
>> It does seem at least plausible that some smart people living in
>> impoverished areas may discover a way to purify water, increase crop
>> growth, reduce infant mortality or increase literacy....if they have a
>> laptop. No?
>>

>
>
> I disagree that OLPC is contemptuous of the world's poor. At worst it's
> misguided.
>
> And that's all I'm saying about it. 😉
>
>



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Craig wrote:
> It does seem at least plausible that some smart people living in
> impoverished areas may discover a way to purify water, increase crop growth,
> reduce infant mortality or increase literacy....if they have a laptop. No?


One of the major reasons for famine in the modern era is its use as an
instrument of war. That $200 worth of rice doesn't do much good if it
doesn't get to the person who is hungry because it is being diverted to
assure that the person is desperate and unable to think beyond where
his/her next meal will come from and when it will be. The laptop is
going to have the same problem.

I'm actually pretty impressed with the Gates Foundation in this respect.
They don't let the (un)civil wars stand in their way of assuring that
people have food to eat, clean water to drink and a way to educate their
children. Of course, when you have two of the wealthiest businessmen in
the world as your primary backers, you have resources available to you
that many ordinary relief agencies can only dream of.

Do I think a batch of $200 laptops will save the world? Probably not.
But, it at least has the potential to give a lot of kids access to
something that would otherwise be out of reach.

Beth



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Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you
nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain
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Agreed. That's why I figure that commuincation with the outside world can
help, if for no other reason than to inform people on how to have sanitary
conditions, grow crops,etc. Just a thought.


"Beth Cole" <eacole@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Craig wrote:
>> It does seem at least plausible that some smart people living in
>> impoverished areas may discover a way to purify water, increase crop
>> growth, reduce infant mortality or increase literacy....if they have a
>> laptop. No?

>
> One of the major reasons for famine in the modern era is its use as an
> instrument of war. That $200 worth of rice doesn't do much good if it
> doesn't get to the person who is hungry because it is being diverted to
> assure that the person is desperate and unable to think beyond where
> his/her next meal will come from and when it will be. The laptop is going
> to have the same problem.
>
> I'm actually pretty impressed with the Gates Foundation in this respect.
> They don't let the (un)civil wars stand in their way of assuring that
> people have food to eat, clean water to drink and a way to educate their
> children. Of course, when you have two of the wealthiest businessmen in
> the world as your primary backers, you have resources available to you
> that many ordinary relief agencies can only dream of.
>
> Do I think a batch of $200 laptops will save the world? Probably not.
> But, it at least has the potential to give a lot of kids access to
> something that would otherwise be out of reach.
>
> Beth
>
>
>
> --
> Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you
> nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain



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Craig wrote:
> Agreed. That's why I figure that commuincation with the outside world can
> help, if for no other reason than to inform people on how to have sanitary
> conditions, grow crops,etc. Just a thought.
>

Or to become like everyone else in the world and not appreciate what
they have but desire a life they cannot achieve. 🙂

Brad
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Craig wrote:
> I dunno...I hear a lot of people criticizing anything that anyone does to
> help anyone. You could purify water for the destitute and someone will
> criticize you for not giving them food.
>
> OTOH, His brother is the other Negroponte. 🙂
>


I didn't say *I* think it's misguided, I said that's the worst one could
say about it. Unless there's a profit motive I'm not seeing.



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Re: food for thought: OLPC

Just as it doesn't take many ignorant people to lay waste to a country, it
doesn't take many people given resources to improve things either.

I think it may very well produce benefits far in excess of the costs to do
this.


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Of course....it's the American dream! Think of all of those potential
consumers! 🙂


"Brad Averbeck" <red_zephrin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Craig wrote:
>> Agreed. That's why I figure that commuincation with the outside world
>> can help, if for no other reason than to inform people on how to have
>> sanitary conditions, grow crops,etc. Just a thought.
>>

> Or to become like everyone else in the world and not appreciate what they
> have but desire a life they cannot achieve. 🙂
>
> Brad


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Yeah...teach a man to fish kind of thing?
"Miles58" <miles58nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just as it doesn't take many ignorant people to lay waste to a country, it
> doesn't take many people given resources to improve things either.
>
> I think it may very well produce benefits far in excess of the costs to do
> this.
>


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Re: food for thought: OLPC

I was thinking more that educating a person is little to no guarantee of
anything. They can still remain woefully and dangerously ignorant.
But...give enough people access to information, and some of them will use it
for good ends.

We educate a lot of people who can neither understand what they have been
taught nor apply it. We have to educate and provide information to many,
many people to get the return we seek out of the few who can change the
world.


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