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preparing for Windows 7

Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7
support. Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!

http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc

http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

Joseph Marton wrote:

> Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7
> support. Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!
>
> http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc
>
> http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7


Not too crazy, the APIs have been locked down as has the feature list,
infact I believe they were locked down at the PDC a couple of months
back. Nor is it as much of a leap from Vista to Windows 7 compared to
XP to Vista - no radical changes to the system design.

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

Joseph Marton wrote:

> Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7
> support. Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!
>
> http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc
>
> http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7


Isn't W7 just a painted Vista?

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:36:47 +0000, brain wrote:

> Isn't W7 just a painted Vista?


Nope.



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Re: preparing for Windows 7

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:36:51 +0000, Scott Campbell wrote:

> Not too crazy, the APIs have been locked down as has the feature list,
> infact I believe they were locked down at the PDC a couple of months
> back. Nor is it as much of a leap from Vista to Windows 7 compared to
> XP to Vista - no radical changes to the system design.


Well that's true, it's not the architectural change as XP->Vista was. I
guess I'm still a bit surprised to see third parties already have apps
for an OS that hasn't even gone to beta 1 yet. Looks like that just
shows how much clout M$ has. 😞



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Re: preparing for Windows 7

brain wrote:
> Joseph Marton wrote:
>
>> Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7
>> support. Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!
>>
>> http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc
>>
>> http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7

>
> Isn't W7 just a painted Vista?
>


I thought it was supposed to be more like what you get after using paint
remover on Vista?
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Re: preparing for Windows 7

brain wrote:
> Joseph Marton wrote:
>
>> Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7
>> support. Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!
>>
>> http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc
>>
>> http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7

>
> Isn't W7 just a painted Vista?
>

It's Vista SP2 but because of the economy Microsoft needed to make some
money so buy naming it Windows 7 they can legally sell it. 🙂

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:53:28 +0000, Brad Averbeck wrote:

> It's Vista SP2 but because of the economy Microsoft needed to make some
> money so buy naming it Windows 7 they can legally sell it. 🙂


Somehow I'm guessing there will still be a separate Vista SP2...




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Re: preparing for Windows 7

> Well that's true, it's not the architectural change as XP->Vista was. I
> guess I'm still a bit surprised to see third parties already have apps
> for an OS that hasn't even gone to beta 1 yet. Looks like that just
> shows how much clout M$ has. 😞


Or it shows how badly third parties need to sell something.
Vista lackluster sales and resulting low uptick didn't hurt just MS
methinks.

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

Joseph Marton wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:53:28 +0000, Brad Averbeck wrote:
>
> Somehow I'm guessing there will still be a separate Vista SP2...
>

Yeah it will be released shortly after Windows 7 is released. 🙂

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Re: preparing for Windows 7

Does windows 7 still have UAC and all that other annoying
security-through-obscurity crap?
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Joseph Marton spewed:

> Looks like a couple of AV vendors already have specific Windows 7 support.
> Crazy, beta 1 hasn't even been released yet!
>
> http://www.avg.com/special-download-antivirus-for-windows-7-mssc
>
> http://www.kaspersky.com/windows7


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Re: preparing for Windows 7

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:32:16 +0000, Adam Gabriel wrote:

> Does windows 7 still have UAC


Yes, but now there's a slider to easily configure the number of popup
notifications you get. I believe it has four positions, with the highest
giving you just as many annoyances as in Vista while the lowest disables
it altogether. And every UAC popup window gives you the option to click
on to then go and configure the notification level. Much better than
Vista IMO. I had to Google how to disable UAC on my wife's Vista laptop,
and as I recall it was a PITA to do. Plus then you get a warning from
the security center after a reboot saying that UAC is off. It's nowhere
near that bad in Windows 7.

> and all that other annoying
> security-through-obscurity crap?


Well you get whatever they've included in IE8, but I don't believe it's
all on by default. And the firewall in Windows 7 looks pretty decent,
probably decent enough that you don't need to buy a third-party
firewall. Also it appears NAC is now built into Windows. I have a
feeling that only works if you're using Windows Server 2008 + AD, though.



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Re: preparing for Windows 7

OK, well does it still make your monitor change modes(twice!)? I had it on my
machine for a day and it took over 5 seconds to change modes on all 4 monitors
to get the prompt up and another 5 to change back to the desktop.

The funniest part was that all it was doing was taking a screenshot of your
desktop, then overlaying it with a dialog ontop. I ended up being ablt turn the
screenshot/"elevated desktop" off, but leave UAC on still, but it was still
annoying.

If the person logged in is an admin, they should be an admin and you should
have to prompt them. If they weren't supposed to know what they are doing, they
should be using a user-level account, not an admin account.
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Joseph Marton spewed:

> > Does windows 7 still have UAC

>
> Yes,


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Re: preparing for Windows 7

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:49:41 +0000, Adam Gabriel wrote:

> OK, well does it still make your monitor change modes(twice!)? I had it
> on my machine for a day and it took over 5 seconds to change modes on
> all 4 monitors to get the prompt up and another 5 to change back to the
> desktop.


Hmm... no, I think it just made everything dark while the notification
was on the screen without changing monitor modes.




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Re: preparing for Windows 7

I'll have to see, cause it does that on my laptop fine. No flicker. Buut on my
desktop it doesn't. The screens all blank, flicker, then come back on with a
faded desktop and a UAC window, then go blank, flicker, then come back once you
click ok. I nearly had a siezure the first time it did it.


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Joseph Marton spewed:

> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:49:41 +0000, Adam Gabriel wrote:
>
> > OK, well does it still make your monitor change modes(twice!)? I had it
> > on my machine for a day and it took over 5 seconds to change modes on
> > all 4 monitors to get the prompt up and another 5 to change back to the
> > desktop.

>
> Hmm... no, I think it just made everything dark while the notification
> was on the screen without changing monitor modes.


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