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quote of the day - Richard Stallman


"... The main obstacle to the triumph of software freedom is social inertia.
You have surely seen its many forms. Many commercial websites are only
accessible with Windows. The BBC's iPlayer handcuffware runs only on
Windows. If you value short-term convenience instead of freedom, you
consider these reasons to use windows."

Linux Format Magazine, Issue 100
http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=NewArchives&issue=1
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I like the term "handcuffware".


"Alberto de_la_Torre" <adelatorre@netfixers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "... The main obstacle to the triumph of software freedom is social

inertia.
> You have surely seen its many forms. Many commercial websites are only
> accessible with Windows. The BBC's iPlayer handcuffware runs only on
> Windows. If you value short-term convenience instead of freedom, you
> consider these reasons to use windows."
>
> Linux Format Magazine, Issue 100
>

http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=NewArchives&issue=1
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In article <47908694.36A6.00E0.0@netfixers.com>,
adelatorre@netfixers.com says...
>
> "... The main obstacle to the triumph of software freedom is social inertia.
> You have surely seen its many forms. Many commercial websites are only
> accessible with Windows. The BBC's iPlayer handcuffware runs only on
> Windows. If you value short-term convenience instead of freedom, you
> consider these reasons to use windows."
>
> Linux Format Magazine, Issue 100
> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=NewArchives&issue=1
> 00
>


Of course it's "easy" to switch when 90% of the stuff only runs on
Windows.

And I feel it'll just get "worse".

Let's see, MS owns like 90% of the desktop market (or thereabouts
depending upon which study you read/believe).

So then they use their OS dominance to "force" people into use their own
Office Suite (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice
has no MS Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)

Then, you "integrate" that with their own email system (Outlook), then
because "everyone's" using Outlook, companies switch to Exchange, thus
causing OS migration in the back-end (and once you have Windows, why
bother using more than one OS--yes I know there's valid technical
reasons, but let's keep going).

Then, you make your Office 2007 and Email system "work better" with your
new Sharepoint Portal, and thus shut out IBM, BEA, Oracle.

So we'll all be using MS stuff in the long-run (or a small minority
using something else).

Although I must admit it's quite ingenious from a marketing/take over
the world perspective.

Sigh. (Feel like I'm fighting a losing battle).
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m_jonis wrote:

> (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice
> has no MS Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)


http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html

> Then, you "integrate" that with their own email system (Outlook),


It'll be interesting to see ultimately the integration Novell Teaming +
Conferencing has in Bonsai.

> then
> because "everyone's" using Outlook, companies switch to Exchange,


Good thing the Outlook Connector for GroupWise should be improving in
Bonsai.

--
Joe
"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us
who do."
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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:53:06 +0000, Joseph Marton wrote:

>> (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice has no MS
>> Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)

>
> http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html


I don't believe it opens MS Access files, though.

Jim
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:03:51 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:53:06 +0000, Joseph Marton wrote:
>
>>> (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice has no MS
>>> Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)

>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html

>
> I don't believe it opens MS Access files, though.


Except of course that it does, and I didn't know that. 🙂

Jim
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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

See, now you have properly exercised your "l'il grey cells" for the day....

;-}

--
Brent

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"


"Jim Henderson" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:03:51 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:53:06 +0000, Joseph Marton wrote:
>>
>>>> (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice has no MS
>>>> Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html

>>
>> I don't believe it opens MS Access files, though.

>
> Except of course that it does, and I didn't know that. 🙂
>
> Jim



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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:00:04 +0000, Brent Wolfe wrote:

> See, now you have properly exercised your "l'il grey cells" for the
> day....


Ah, you missed the earlier part of my day. This was extra. 😉

Jim
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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

Hey, "extra" is usually a good thing......

;-}

--
Brent

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"


"Jim Henderson" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:00:04 +0000, Brent Wolfe wrote:
>
>> See, now you have properly exercised your "l'il grey cells" for the
>> day....

>
> Ah, you missed the earlier part of my day. This was extra. 😉
>
> Jim



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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:33:05 +0000, Brent Wolfe wrote:

> Hey, "extra" is usually a good thing......


Well, yeah, *usually*. 🙂

Jim
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In article <9gakj.21998$k06.16144@kovat.provo.novell.com>,
nospam@nospam.com says...
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:03:51 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:53:06 +0000, Joseph Marton wrote:
> >
> >>> (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice has no MS
> >>> Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)
> >>
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html

> >
> > I don't believe it opens MS Access files, though.

>
> Except of course that it does, and I didn't know that. 🙂
>
> Jim
>


Yay, I was wrong (this is a good thing here).

I'll have to try it and see how well it opens the hundreds of thousands
of Access programs we have.
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Re: quote of the day - Richard Stallman

In article <6d9kj.21970$k06.20252@kovat.provo.novell.com>,
jmartonNO@SPAMhsemuni.com says...
> m_jonis wrote:
>
> > (yes, there are alternatives, but let's face it, OpenOffice
> > has no MS Access alternative that I'm aware of, etc.)

>
> http://www.openoffice.org/product/base.html
>
> > Then, you "integrate" that with their own email system (Outlook),

>
> It'll be interesting to see ultimately the integration Novell Teaming +
> Conferencing has in Bonsai.


Yeah, the only problem is that if your Office Suite doesn't work with it
(or integrate as tightly), it doesn't do any good. Plus, Novell is
about 2 years late with that product (Teaming + Conf). In order to
fully utilize Office 2007 you HAVE to use Sharepoint (big surprise
coming from MS).

>
> > then
> > because "everyone's" using Outlook, companies switch to Exchange,

>
> Good thing the Outlook Connector for GroupWise should be improving in
> Bonsai.
>
>


I guess I also meant on the back-end. 90% of our new stuff doesn't work
with GroupWise (other than basic SMTP), (but of course, it works with
Exchange/Notes).

Sigh.

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